Can Floyd help Wilder improve?

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  1. Rikicortz

    Rikicortz Active Member banned Full Member

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    Do ya'll think Floyd can help Wilder improve and how
     
  2. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Having a genius in your corner only helps if you have a student who is teachable.

    Breland has said so himself, Wilder is a poor student. He tries to teach him things to improve him as a fighter, but because it doesn't come to Wilder easily he loses motivation, scraps what Breland is trying to show him then hits the gym to do workouts he already excels at.

    The techniques Floyd utilises are so far beyond Wilder capabilities it would be like asking a dog to do your taxes.
     
  3. AdamT

    AdamT Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This 100%

    Floyd would need AJ or Fury in the ring, or even Whyte!!

    Wilder fell in love with his power and relied on it with his athleticism

    He never really improved much on his fundamentals, which is sad, because if he had? He could of been the top guy

    Heart yes
    Speed yes
    Power big yes
    Toughness yes

    Skill and I.Q? A huge NO
     
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  4. Olu G. Rotimi

    Olu G. Rotimi The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    The problem is Wilder does not listen. Mark Breland can teach him everything he needs to learn.​
     
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  5. JediPimp007

    JediPimp007 Long suffering reader Full Member

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    Wilder is simply too stupid and ignorant to teach. When his mantra is he only needs to be perfect for 2 seconds, that's not someone who prioritises boxing skill.
     
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  6. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Yeah we've all heard it before, even Browne vs Whyte... " I have 36 minutes to land a punch"...

    Those guys never succeed... you've failed from the onset with that mentality....
     
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  7. chico g

    chico g What are you staring at Mr Trump?! hahaha! Full Member

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    Deontay don't need Floyd messing with his corner! The bomb squad have got a secret weapon for the third fight! The bomb squad call it the Philly windmill!
     
  8. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    No. Great fighters don't necessarily make good trainers. And Floyd is the type of guy (POS) that would hold back out of fear that his fighter could one day achieve more.

    I think JMM would be a great trainer, though.
     
  9. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    I disagree with the ring IQ. Here's why. Although Wilder's resume isn't filled with ATG's, he has managed to accomplish quite a bit with his very limited skill set. I find it very difficult to believe someone could go as far as Wilder did with both lack of skill and a very low ring IQ. If you're honest, you know there have been many fighters that were more skilled than Wilder with Low ring IQ, that never came close to achieving what Wilder has. Just doesn't add up to me.
     
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  10. RealDeal

    RealDeal Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    This would be like an astrophysicist trying to explain quantum gravity theory to my cat.
     
  11. AdamT

    AdamT Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes I guess when you put it like that it probably isn't too bad

    Though I still think it's his belief in his power (the equaliser) and his natural athleticism that has taken him so far

    to be fair he has done a fair bit with his limited skillset and that is admirable
     
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  12. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    A fighters mindset can take them far. I agree. His athleticism separates him from a large part of the heavyweight pool as well. Perhaps it's a combination of ring smarts and athleticism that was the winning formula that allowed him to accomplish what he has. No need for skill. LOL
     
  13. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Trying to improve Wilder would be like trying to teach a quadriplegic to be an Olympic swimmer.
     
  14. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Floyd doesn't like Wilder much if memory serves correct. And as others have stated he's not a boxing trainer. Wilder can't be helped. He is what he is.
     
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  15. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    A windmill
     
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