Who did Usyk beat to be considered so great?

At HW, nobody... but because he is a cruiserweight king... it's assumed he'll be the same at HW

Ergo by default he will beat every HW... just a formality having to watch him do it (the boring part)

At least according to many others... not me

 

‘Yes, it was a very impressive victory but not as good as Pacquiao over Thurman for the last spot. ‘Heavyweights are just not as talented as other divisions, so it’s harder for someone, even as talented as Fury, to accumulate credit.'

there u have it, p4p is buII****

 

The fuss fans make over silly fictional P4P lists never gets old....

 

P4p was created to highlight and champion the smaller fighters outside of the heavyweights because everyone knows that in reality the best fighter is the one that can beat every other fighter in the ring and that has always being heavyweights.

 

They're P4P ratings, not HW ratings.

He's up there for his great CW resume.

 

He beat a few stiff Eurobots at cruiser weight, and unified the paper belts in the process. Oh and he beat 40 year old Chazz Witherspoon, getting very roughed up in the process. ATG

Next up on his road to greatness.... 36 year old Derek Chisora. Personally I don’t think he will amount to much at heavyweight , but others disagree.

 

No one at cruiserweight, ditto for Heavyweight. Another fighter from the last decade that havent fought anyone close to special, but media and fan boys have made him an ATG. Similar to the Joshua and Wilder madness.

 

P4P concept is not that hard to understand. Don’t play stupid.

 

Is this a joke?

Usyk cleaned out arguably the best division in boxing. He became undisputed champ. Take a look at the names he beat and he did it in their country....risking a BS decision.

Glowacki - who recently beat Huck and Cunningham
Mchunu - who is now near the top of the division
Hunter - now a good HW who just drew with Povetkin
Huck - veteran at CW with a million title defenses, should have been HW champ against Povetkin
Briedis - undefeated also KO'd Charr at HW
Gassiev - undefeated killer who was knocking people dead
Bellew - who was on a long winning streak and beat current champ Makabu

Not to mention, aside from the Briedis fight, he pretty much waxed all of these guys. If you want to say Usyk won't do well at HW, you are entitled to that opinion. But to discredit his accomplishment at CW is ridiculous and biased. You cannot call yourself a boxing fan if you discredit him.

 

George14 has it spot on.
Well said lad

 

^^ Gotta love when posters volunteer to show their ignorance....

 

No he doesn’t, cw has never been, arguably the best division...ever.
That’s just the same bias he’s accusing others of, except the hyperbole is pointed in the other direction..

 

To be fair if you watch the fight against Bredis closely you will see that most Bredis punches landing on the air.
Usyk beat everyone with dominant fashion. You can`t compare him to anyone at CW. He is once a generation special fighter, the same as Loma.
The footwork, his timing, his speed and reflexes is absolutely top level, it doesn`t get better than this. He create insane angles, and move like a guy 2 division below.

 

-Cunningham and Huck are old as dirt.
-How exactly is Mchunu “near the top” of the division?
-You rank Hunter for drawing with a mummified Povetkin ??
-And the two undefeated Eurobots were never proven to be worth ****. They were only known for having lost to Usyk
- And Cruiserweight was the best division in boxing? Log off please