Who did Usyk beat to be considered so great?

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  1. gogeta

    gogeta Member Full Member

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    Facts
     
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  2. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Fact - Bellew was unranked at CW when he boiled back down 2 years after he moved up to HW.
     
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  3. Goran_

    Goran_ Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Triggered by the metro? Really! :lol:
     
  4. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pound-for-pound is make believe.

    Usyk beat a handful of guys who are too afraid to compete at heavyweight as pros (Gassiev just bowed out of a fight with a journeyman heavyweight because he wasn't happy with his training) and Chazz Witherspoon isn't even the best fighter at his family barbecue.

    But Usyk looked real smooth beating them. So he's in.

    That's basically all pound-for-pound is. Doesn't matter if you beat grown men who weigh 108 pounds who Clarissa Shields could probably destroy in a street fight. If you look good doing it, you're pound-for-pound one of the best.

    It's always been a joke. Sort of like "make sure all the little kids get a medal."

    But the little kids and their friends aren't in on the joke.
     
  5. george14

    george14 Member Full Member

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    - Huck was a whopping 33 years old
    - Mchunu is #4 on Boxrec
    - Hunter is a top 10 HW, not to mentioned he drew with a top 10 HW
    - I said Cruiserweight was arguably the best division in boxing. It was competitive and some of those guys were champion for a while. As I stated, Huck moved up and beat Povetkin, or at least should have. Briedis disposed of Charr and is at the top of the division now.
    - You are not presenting any facts. You are simply stating your opinion about how the division sucks. Which is based on nothing.
     
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  6. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    pound per pound rating usyk is higher than fury

    Heavyweight ratings fury is higher than usyk
     
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  7. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No one at cruiserweight? Does Huck, Gassiev, Briedis, Hunter, Glowacki and Bellew(aka: virtually the entirety of the CW division) not cut the mustard for you?
     
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  8. robg

    robg Active Member Full Member

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    Gassiev and Briedis are massive wins in my book. Winning that tourney was super impressive. I had originally picked Dorticos to win it. That tourney was STACKED
     
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  9. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Where am I being ignorant? If you disagree with MY opinion tell me yours.... Whom has Usyk beaten that makes him great with his grand total of 17 pro fights. Or is it you being ignorant, not respecting someone else's opinion, but have no real leg to stand on for Usyk. Or than name calling.
     
  10. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No, they don't.
     
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  11. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Why not?
     
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  12. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Because I've seen much better, even at cruiserweight.
     
  13. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Really? Who? What run is much better today, or ever at CW which is better than that row of fighters? I'm genuinely interested as I've zero doubt that Usyk has the best résumé at CW. To the point I think it's so clear you'd have to not watch the fighters, or fights, to argue otherwise. Although you're a very learned poster so I'm obviously not assuming that's the case.
     
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  14. george14

    george14 Member Full Member

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    He prefers Holyfield and his murderers row of opponents; such as 5'5" Qawi and De Leon who beat a ton of guys without a Wikipedia page.

    Usyk ran through a gauntlet of opponents. This guy is an absolute clown. I love Holyfield but I don't understand how people view his CW resume better than Usyk's.
     
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  15. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well, Qawi and DeLeon are awesome, but I'd pick Briedis and Gassiev(plus a few others) to beat both. Flash ain't a clown though, the guy knows his stuff.