Wilder gameplan for rematch?

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  1. gmurphy

    gmurphy Land of the corrupt, home of the robbery! banned Full Member

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    That's all well and good Brighton but wilder was actually initiating the most of the clinches to slow down the fight and because he was getting battered in the exchanges.
    Fury fights at a high pace, and has a huge reach, even if you drilled him perfect on it he would still be getting hit by fury when he tries to keep him at distance.
    He can do things that in theory would help with his flaws and weaknesses but they just might highlight and expose other weaknesses he has.
    He just isnt a match for fury
     
  2. gold

    gold Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wilder needs to quit playing video games.
     
  3. gmurphy

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    Needs to dip his hands in patrol at the very least. Even the playing field
     
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  4. Veys9

    Veys9 Let's go Champ! Full Member

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    Wilders gameplan for the rematch? He will land the right hands and I'm afraid to say that but he will win either by KO or by decision and get his green belt back.

    He won't put on a mastershow of boxing, but he will come at the best weight for his style, improve a little bit the footwork to get out of Fury's punching and jabbing line and will hit Fury when he leans in for the jab and right hand. Not sure if he will really KO Fury, but he will knock him down.

    It's sad to believe, but Wilder is gonna make it, as much as I wish Fury wins. That's my prediction for summer. Wilder gets his belt back.
     
  5. Brighton bomber

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    You're right, he did initiate a lot of the clinches half the time because, yes he was getting battered and needed to somehow stop the onslaught of shots from Fury and half the time he found Fury up close and didn't know what else to do on the inside but clinch, as he has no inside game to speak of. But I still think it would help Wilder if he can use the shoulder and elbow to push Fury off at times, to prevent being leaned on or getting put in head locks.

    As for the pace, Wilder has fought at a high pace before in the past, I think he can handle a high pace, what he can't handle is the pace being dictated by Fury, there's a difference when you're the one setting the pace and when someone else is setting the pace. That means slowing the pace down, which is usually when you clinch, though against Fury that didn't work because he was manhandled and leaned down on in the clinches meaning he could never rest on the inside. That's why Wilder knowing how to clinch properly and not be leaned on is vital for Wilder.

    But yeah he isn't a match for Fury. He can do things to make the fight easier for him, but I don't think he can change enough or learn enough in a few months that will actually win the fight. Best he can hope for is that he doesn't get completely dominated again and at least be competitive for several rounds before he's ground down.
     
  6. Heavy_Hitter

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    That's a typical Canelo fight set up.
    Except DLH also would have Fury drained and make him do the 3rd fight only a month after his previous fight so he is in a terrible condition.
     
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  7. bbjc

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    Mayweathers not using it to keep a strong 40lb heavier fighter off him tho. With all the training in the world 40 lbs is still 40 lb. The problem they,ve got is tysons a bit of a freak in that he can go higher and still retain his speed. Wilder wont but it will keep him from being overpowered as easily as he was. Its a gamble but its a gamble he needs. Needs to try to match furys strength etc as best as he can. 40 lb is a lot of weight to not just keep off you...but the extra weight in the punches etc when your 40 lb lighter is hard going. Furys success wasn,t just down to clinching him. Hes got to try to at least be competetive athletically first. Theres a reason their manipulating the scales so much nowadays in the lower weight classes.

    Pretty sure after the first fight wilder was talking about putting something like 50 lb,s on for the rematch. He felt it in there being the smaller man. Still say hes got to at least try to match him strength wise first and foremost. He wont be as strong as fury...but he shouldn,t be getting overpowered quite as easily as he was. Gives him a chance to get something off and improve his durability a bit.

    People say the extra weight on a heavyweight is lazyness. Not so sure. Think its more tactical a lot of the time. Only two that dont have much on them is joshua and wilder. Both of these guys have shown durability issues.
     
  8. Rikicortz

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  9. Reg

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    Wilder spent the first two rounds trying to stop Fury from walking him backwards. He couldn't. It's easy to say "don't do this or that", but actually applying it is a different story.
     
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  10. the commentator

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    Windmill and hope one lands.
     
  11. bandeedo

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    How bout you teach your own stable to win their fights, Floyd. I keep seeing most of them **** the bed.
     
  12. Pound4PoundGG

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    Ive seen fighters improve enough between rematches. Dont know if Wilder can do it or not. Simple things like throwing more body shots, feints, and better movement could be enough. Wilder has the athleticism to be able to pull it off and if he gets some one like mayweather to help him he could have a better chance.
     
  13. Ian_k

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    His style should be to learn the fundamentals and how to box
     
  14. Brighton bomber

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    You don't understand how the elbow is utilised then if you think it wouldn't work vs Fury. You use it on a fighters head and throat, which is a weak point, where the head goes the body follows. Fury could be 100lbs heavier and it wouldn't make a difference a persons forearm will always be stronger than their head and neck.

    Being a good inside fighter isn't about being bigger or stronger. Fighters that know how to fight inside properly can easily overcome bigger, stronger opponents, because technique overrides their advantage in size and strength. If Wilder had better technique on the inside he'd dominate him up close, even though he is smaller and lighter. So Wilder trying to match Fury's strength is pointless, without the technique to go with it.

    I don't expect Wilder to pick up enough technique to beat Fury in close, but he might be able to pick up enough to mitigate some of the advantage Fury has with a few simple techniques and be able to rest more by preventing and breaking the odd clinch, instead of getting mauled every time Fury gets up close.
     
  15. timeout

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    You can have a jaw transplant or/and I can stick you on Mayweather IV saline mix.

    Worked for me son, to this DAY!