Mike Tyson

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what ya think?

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  1. surfinghb1

    surfinghb1 Member Full Member

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    Pre problems, he was a very scary man !! Focused, confident, a wrecking ball. Boxing hadn't seen that type of intimidation since Liston. That Mike Tyson I think would KO Wilder in 1 and Fury in 2 .. Am I wrong??… or right
     
  2. CharlieFirpo85

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    He probably KO's Wilder early if he can force Wilder to fight backwards. It's very likely that a 86-88 Mike has the speed and the elusiveness to avoid Wilders jab and the right hand. So he will murder his body and fires some lethal Combos indside. So 80/20 for an early KO by Mike Tyson.

    But i highly doubt that he will KO Fury in Rd 2. Fury is too slick too big, he has no weakness at all. I guess Ironmike will be outboxed and gets TKO Rd 8-9. Mike's chance is probably below 10-20%. I just dont see how he can deal with this height and range disadvantage against a slick guy with good skills, good reactions, who is tricky as hell and doesn't run out of gas.
     
  3. Naked Snake

    Naked Snake Active Member Full Member

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    Oh please. I get that everyone's stoked on Fury because of his big win last week but Tyson Fury is nowhere near invincible. McDermott beat him, and was robbed on the cards. Cunningham put him on his ass. Other fighters have put him on his ass. Wilder's put him on his ass. Wallin cut him so bad that if it were anybody else the fight would've been stopped and we'd have seen two big upsets that year.
    Fury is technically brilliant, I won't deny that. But so was Mike Tyson. There's no way that Fury could beat a prime Mike Tyson who absolutely demolished almost everyone in the division and plenty of them bigger men
     
  4. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hesitantly put right...I have high hopes for Fury
     
  5. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King Full Member

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    Nobody is koing fury in 2. Nobody. But i do think he could beat both of them, maybe stop them within 6 at the earliest. One of Tyson's biggest weaknesses was getting tied up and leaned on by bigger men. If a club fighter like Mitch Green can do it surely these 2 can (especially Fury).

    Wilder certainly has a shot of making things interesting if Ruddock, who similarly relied on 1 big punch, could drag Tyson into a brutal war. He wouldn't win but he'd have his moments and he'd get Tyson's respect if he managed to land his right hand.
     
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  6. Naked Snake

    Naked Snake Active Member Full Member

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    Ruddock had fundamentals, Wilder does not. Mike Tyson also had an incredible chin. Ruddock hit Tyson with his best shot, a shot that KO'ed Bonecrusher and many others. It wobbled Tyson a bit but he did not go down. Wilder would never beat Mike Tyson, even a faded Mike Tyson
    Fury on the other hand could be competitive. But Fury, for his own part, said Mike Tyson would absolutely destroy him. That's the fight right there. So many of Mike's opponents lost the fight before they even got hit
     
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  7. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Don't think he beats Fury and I seriously doubt Wilder goes in the 1st or 2nd for that matter.
     
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  8. ChrisJS

    ChrisJS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think Tyson forces Wilder back and wins inside two rounds but I feel Fury is all wrong for him. Mike would have a punchers chance but it’s highly likely he tires and gets frustrated from Fury using his size to tire him down and his awkwardness makes it difficult. I actually think I’d pick Fury.
     
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  9. mr. magoo

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    I went with “ Wrong.” While I concur that he was a better fighter and very likely would have beaten both, picking him to win those fights so early and effortlessly is a stretch in my eyes.
     
  10. Frankus

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    Fury wouldn’t even scratch the surface of top 30 HWs all time let alone be able to withstand what Tyson has to offer in his prime. Lightning speed, It would be Dempsey Willard mk II IMHO
     
  11. Naked Snake

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    Wilder definitely. Way too many technical mistakes. Evander Holyfield said, and this is coming from a guy who beat him, that you can't afford to make too many mistakes with Mike Tyson.
    He'd have Wilder on his ass. That Wilder thinks he could beat him is laughable
     
  12. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I’m not disputing that Tyson would win. But I don’t see it as being the one round slaughter that some are making it out to be. Fact is Tyson KO’d very few fighters in one round who were on the “ world “ level. And of the ones he did, none of them were 6’7” with a chin that took bombs from guys like Luis Ortiz, Tyson Fury or Bernane Stiverne.. in addition, none had Wilder’s power. The trend we saw in Tyson’s career is the bigger the guys were the more he struggled with them... Even Tyrell Biggs who had no chin, no power, skills that never developed much beyond the amateurs and drug problems besides managed to last 7 rounds with him. And for those who are picking Tyson to make short work of Fury are really going out on a limb..
     
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  13. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah, Mike's whole fight was to get inside and avoid the punches and work the body and come upstairs. At times he was hit like with Tucker in round one and Bruno in round one also. But I think he was hit more with uppercuts and left hooks than right hands early. So I think he stops Wilder.
     
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  14. Naked Snake

    Naked Snake Active Member Full Member

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    He's KO'ed more than Wilder
    Old, high blood pressure, no tank, weaker since he's been off the steroids
    Not a power puncher
    Fat Barry White look alike
    Wilder's power is massively overrated. He never hit anybody who wanted to get up...other than Fury and look at what happened to him. He also never hit anybody with a chin like Mike Tyson's
    Tyrell Biggs was an Olympic gold medalist with over 100 amateur bouts. Wilder is an Olympic bronze medalist who only started boxing when he was twenty and who's had fewer than 40 amateur bouts. Not to mention that Biggs really pissed Tyson off which is why he let it go on for seven rounds

    There is no comparison. Saying that Biggs never developed much beyond the amateurs means a lot less than saying the same of Wilder
    Well, that's certainly up for debate.
     
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  15. Frankus

    Frankus Active Member Full Member

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    Because Stiverne, Ortiz and Fury are world class punchers