How many 168lb fighters beat Tommy Burns?

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  1. Gudetama

    Gudetama Active Member Full Member

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    Bit of a random question...
    Looking at his record, I'm going to guess that Burns' best fighting weight was around 173lb. So, with a weigh-in (let's say a half-day... 12hours?), he should make 168lb pretty comfortably.
    If you pick a 1985 guy against 1905 Burns, let's call it a half-way house - 1945 rules, gloves, ref, etc.
    If you pick a 1945 guy against 1905 Burns, let's call it a half-way house - 1925 rules, gloves, ref, etc.
    I'm going to say around 15 guys beat him.
    What say you? (please humour me!)
     
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  2. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    Quite a few I think.

    I don't think Burns was anything that special, he just had good attributes for fighting bigger opponents, most of which he fought were pretty crap. He really has a fairly shallow resume of Hart and O'Brien, and then not much of note.

    Prime for prime I'd actually pick Kid McCoy to beat him.
     
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  3. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Marvin Johnson could make 168 with 12 hours imo. He'd beat Burns.
     
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  4. RealDeal

    RealDeal Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    To be honest, he would probably fight at 160 under modern day weigh-in rules.
     
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  5. janitor

    janitor VIP Member

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    He might have been one of the best pound for pound of that weight.
     
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  6. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He was better than the credit he receives.
     
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  7. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict

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    Maybe even 154, and 147 isn't out of the question.
     
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  8. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    168 lbs Roy Jones, Jr.
     
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  9. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Hundreds.

    I'll start with Reggie Johnson, Joe Calzaghe, Omar Sheika, Charles Brewer... you can fill in the rest. Let me know when you are done. I stay up real late.
     
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  10. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    Same here. McCoy > Burns. Burns has decent skills on offense ( not defense ), some power and a lot of guts. I also think some middles beat, him, some super middles bet him, and a lot of light heavyweights beat him.
     
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  11. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Burns would KO them all, especially RJJ. You can go to bed now.
     
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