1908 Jack Johnson vs 1988 Mike Tyson

Johnson does not look like a defensive genius on film. Tyson would savage Johnson inside 3 rounds.

 

Are you ****ing serious? He was a defensive master and frustrated every guy but yes, Tyson probably by ko because the boxing improved a lot since the jack time and Tyson watched every old film from old school guys

 

Yes I'm being serious. Watch the films of Johnson vs Moran or Johnson vs Willard. They are pretty even and Johnson wasn't that hard to hit. Neither Moran or Willard was skilled. Tyson is very skilled. He's land early and that would be that.

Did you know Johnson was out boxed by a 160ish pound man in Jack O'Brien according to some primary sources and drew with a Journeyman in title matches? Both are true.

 

As great as Johnson was I don't think he'd be competitive against anyone who had the diet, nutrition and conditioning of someone fighting in the 1980s

 

Tyson by savage first round KO.

 

It seems people on here are under estimating Johnson.He would frustrate Tyson and out box him on his way to a win on points

 

I'm starting to think that several of these members posting nonsense are all the same person.

 

The Moran and Willard fights should definitely NOT be looked at when judging Johnson's defensive skill. Willard homer simpsoned his way to gas an overweight 37 yr old Johnson and the Moran fight was already fixed to go the full 20 rounds. Not very fair to judge a fighter through footage of them much past their prime IMO while judging Tyson on how he was in his 20s. Not saying Tyson wouldn't win, just an unfair outlook on Johnson.

 

I think the best Johnson could do is hold and frustrate Tyson for a bit until he gets dropped. Maybe Jack could do it longer than I think, and if it goes past 10 rounds perhaps he could get a decision , but I just can't see him beating Mike at his best.

 

Not against 1988 Tyson they didn’t. This is the Tyson that you made this thread about wasn’t it?

 

Johnson of jeffries bout takes out tyson

 

Marvin Hart shut Johnson down for the 2nd half of the fight. Before that Joe Choynski who was a sharp puncher, Kod; him cold. Ketchel as crude as he was Knocked Johnson down and according to Johnson had him hurt. Then there was Gunboat Smith who though a novice in 1909 ( Johnson's absolute prime ) TKO'd Johnson a a 4 round exhibition match.

There you have it, Johnson from age 23-29.

None of these four are close to Mike Tyson.

 

Perhaps. Look at the post counts. We see guys with 20-100 total posts saying strange things.