Helenius vs Kownacki

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  1. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah with Wilder, Ruiz and now Kownacki all losing it's not a good start to the year for PBC.

    Agreed the Martin performance surprised a lot of people, the ease with which Joshua beat him and how Kownacki struggled was a clear indication he was at least a level or 2 below the top guys. The Arreola fight too, Arreola is shot, had been stopped by Wilder and Stiverne, barely scraped by journeymen yet Arreola hit him with almost 300 punches, 95% of them power shots, while it was a clear win, it shouldn't of been as competitive as it was.

    Having said that nobody saw Helenius causing the upset, but when you can punch and you have an opponent who's defence relies on blocking shots with his face, anything can happen.
     
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  2. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Kownacki was hyped because he was about to face Wilder. He was hyped big time, because he was zero threat, but was hyped as some beast with solid chin, yet he have china chin and was stretched by Helenius.
    So happy all that s**** doesn`t happen and the false hype for Wilder is finally over.
     
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  3. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I'm your huckleberry, that's just mah game Full Member

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    This is a huge win for Helenius and proves he still carries that monstrous power. Not too sure where Kownacki goes from here. He's clearly not the most dedicated or skilled fighter around, and now that people know that he can be hurt and stopped we might see more fighters attempting to go for the stoppage. Given the way he fights his punch resistance is everything, and that's something that always goes at some point, usually after a KO like this one.
     
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  4. BoxingNL

    BoxingNL Dutch P4P Champion Full Member

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    Good stop by Helenius. He looked good in this one.
    If his body is OK, he's still top 10 HW
     
  5. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I'm your huckleberry, that's just mah game Full Member

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    Kownacki isn't glass chinned at all. Helenius is simply a very hard puncher.

    Remember, this is a guy who knocked only slightly faded versions of Peter and Brewster unconscious.
     
  6. Geo1122

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    I love how the WBA doctored their rankings so that this fight could be made. And then it all went wrong.
     
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  7. Brighton bomber

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    Yep Helenius could always throw a right hand that could mess you up, even now.

    Kownacki looked so durable before partly because guys were coming to him, but Helenius hurt Kownacki when moving back on the ropes and caught him walking in with a right hand. That right hand might not have hurt him if he was just static but because he was trying to press Helenius and walked into the shot, it vastly increased it's power. Sometimes moving back and inviting your opponent in, is the best way to get the KO, not moving forward.
     
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  8. Inglis_1

    Inglis_1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Does Kownacki have a rematch clause.
     
  9. BoJangles

    BoJangles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    First off I picked the wrong guy to win, COWnacki was a 40-1 favorite, people who bet on Helenius to win got a 20-1 payout!

    Second, how the heck does Helenius get KTFO by Washington who'd just gotten KTFO by Kownacki get a WBA Heavyweight Title Eliminator???

    Third, Kownacki getting KTFO by Helenius will open him up for a shot at Joshua, they see him as a safe opponent now like how they chose Eric Molina for Joshua after he'd been KTFO by Arreola in 1 round and stopped by Wilder!! Brits packed the stadium and PPV to watch Joshua beat up on Molina because a Brit beating up on trialhorses is great, it's only bad when Americans or anyone else does it!!

    Wilder did it but they made Dominic Breazeale his Mandatory... Joshua took 7 rounds to get rid of Breazeale then Wilder blasted him out of there in 1 round...

    I bet if Joshua fought Wilder 10 times Joshua would get KTFO in 8 of them and win a decision in 2 of them by surviving to the final bell by running around in circles trying to avoid getting hit, in most cases he'd get nailed with the right hand before round 12 and do a face-plant as his Cuck FanBoyz cry and slurp on their thumbs...
     
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  10. chico g

    chico g What are you staring at Mr Trump?! hahaha! Full Member

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    The heavyweight division never disappoints. 230lb behemoths slugging it at each other. Helenius has always been a big puncher, the only thing that deteriorated with him was his punch resistance, but it seems Kownacki's chin has been cracked too. That puny Usyk better stay away from these drunk caveman, because he will end up the same way as Adamek taking the monstrous blows against these blob like primates. Screw those scrawny cruiserweights! lol
     
  11. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yup but that was 10 years ago, when he was in way better form. He lost most of his attributes. Sorry Kownacki is glass jawed bum.
    The moment he step the level against someone really decent he will get KOed in the very first round.
    The first knockdown that he was rocked so hard, the shots that landed on him was not even the hardest, and they have very little speed as well.
    Guess what will happen on that pure china when someone like Joshua connects.
     
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  12. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Stop dreaming dude, your fanboy lost.
    Joshua will beat Wilder 11 times out of 10.
    Molina was Joshua 18th fight, while he was number 34 in the Wilder card.
    Guess what exactly that makes you?
    Joshua KO Molina in the 3rd round, Wilder was going to a war with Molina and took him 9 rounds.

    Wilder could not even KO Duhaupas, the fight was stopped in the 11 by the ref, yet Povetkin brutally KTFO him in 6 round.
    Ah and Povetkin is a guy who was KTFO by Joshua, you get that ?
    Wilder then goes on life and death with Szpilka and took him 9 rounds to do the job`s done, yet the overrated bum Kownacki beat him in 4 rounds, and Chisora KTFO him in 2.
    You understand where thats going and how that makes you look ?

    And the big difference between the Beyonce chicken legs and Joshua is, that Joshua right now is Champion on 4 titles, and Wilder is just a contender, who is going to get another a*** kicken by another overrated fighter, that Joshua will KO with ease.
     
  13. It's Ovah

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    I think it's a gross exaggeration to call Kownacki glass-jawed, and diminishes Hellboy's win. Kownacki might never have shown his punch resistance against the very cream of the division, but the fact that he walked through a whole night's worth of shots from Martin and Arreola and more or less won those fights on his toughness and workrate alone should banish any notions that he can't take a punch.

    Of course Joshua would knock Kownacki out, but Joshua knocked out Povetkin and Whyte as well, and both men have solid chins. In fact the only man Joshua hasn't dropped or stopped in his career is the teak tough Joseph Parker.
     
  14. jcairns1

    jcairns1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Helenius is a strange figthter, puts his shots together well when he wants but sometimes looks like he’s frozen and won’t let them go.

    In his fight with Dillian Whyte he BADLY hurt Whyte in the second or third round and didn’t even seem to notice, then shut up shop and just survived.

    Good win against Kownacki but don’t know how far he goes from here.
     
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  15. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I like the way Kownacki brings it to his opponents , however when your getting hit by this guy who ain't exactly a technician in the ring it shows immense flaws. Now the elephant in the room,,,Adam weighed 265 pounds on a 6' 3 frame . He could easily weigh 240 and be quicker and move much more easily.
     
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