Fat out-of-shape heavyweight boxers always disappoint their fans

Any athlete cutting corners will get found out sooner or later, that's just a reality of competitive sport at an elite level.

Talent and ring smarts can allow you to get away with it to some degree, with fighters like Toney and old Foreman but eventually the right opponent will come along, take you out of your comfort zone and then all that extra weight suddenly weighs you down in a way it didn't before.

 

Well, every loss is disappointing.

They've also won an assload of fights. If you take a glass half full approach, I'd say it's impressive that those guys beat ones like Joshua and Martin in the first place.

 

Let's be honest, in any era Arreola, Ruiz and Kowanaki aren't A-level fighters. If Kownacki and Ruiz fought at a true in shape weight they'd be Cruisers.. not heavies and Chris just was never that good.. fun fighter to watch at times and funny as hell.. but he was a step above Journeyman in actual boxing talent.

 

Disappointing against Vitali?, you can’t be serious. He gave it his all against Vitali and kept trying to the very end. He finished that fight on his feet, but simply couldn’t get to Vitali and can’t be blamed for it.

 

Ruiz was definitely fat and out of shape for the first fight, too. He didn't disappoint his fans.

 

I wouldnt put Ruiz in same group as Arreola and Kownacki as he is clearly far more talented technically and arguably alongside Parker has the quickest hands in the divison. I certianly wouldn't write him off.

You can write Kownacki off, he's awful.

 

I don't think that's fair at all, honestly.

Being a top 15-20 heavyweight is hardly awful. If he was awful, Martin would've destroyed him. Washington would've won. You may not have to be title material, but you can't be awful and beat those guys.

It's BS that people act like wins don't count the first time a guy loses a fight he's not supposed to.

The whole premise of this thread is whack. You have to ignore all the fights these fat guys won to have it make any sense, and no "fan" dumps their guy at the side of the road the first L they take anyways.

 

What about fury

 

Also remember Odlanider Solis. Same story.

 

Will see another obese behemoth crowned heavyweight champion soon, especially with that fragile bodybuilder hogging the majority of those shiny belts.

 

Ruiz deserves to be written off. He can have all the skills in the world, but if he’s inconsistent, he’s not worth the time. I can understand inconsistency after at least a few big fights, but not immediately after becoming champion.

 

Ruiz is 100% finished.

They'll keep throwing this fat slob out there trying to get mexican americans interested in heavyweight boxing, but he won't win a major fight again.

This guy was an overnight super star....and ate himself into oblivion ahead of the rematch. If you can't train and diet ahead of a fight like that....how can you train for a fight of less magnitude and making 1/8th the money? You cannot.

Enjoy the run with these fatasses. You'll get some huge upsets and that's fun, but you can't think any of them are going anywhere.

 

There's no benefit to being grotesquely, morbidly obese in boxing. You might be able to have some success but sooner or later you'll come unstuck, and nine times out of ten it'll be your conditioning that lets you down. Solis was the same, very talented and could have been a great smaller heavy a la Chagaev, Ibragimov, even Povetkin, but could never get his weight below the 260 mark. Sam Peter could have had more success had he fought around 225-230. His weight let him down on a number of occasions and led to his becoming shot relatively early on in his career.

Arreola never really had much to begin with, but spending more time at a lighter weight might have allowed him to focus more on his skills and led to him having a slightly more successful career. Most of his training camps were fat camps, and that showed in his performances in the ring.

Kownacki is just like Arreola in terms of talent level and ceiling, but the fact that he's even more out of shape than Arreola makes him ponderous and unable to punch with the speed that'd make his style so much more effective.

Ruiz is the most talented of the bunch, but also the most out of shape. It's shocking to think how much success he could have if he trained like a spartan and actually came in around the 215 mark. His speed and slickness would be out of this world.

 

He has rolls of fat on his stomach, he's not as fat as Ruiz but he's carrying at least 45 pounds of fat. If he stripped it all off he would probably look like Wilder did in the second fight. Even at 245lb against Wlad he was fat.