Is Haymon mismanaging his fighters to causing them to lose money?

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  1. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Over the last few weeks some of PBC stars have taken L's especially at heavyweight where wilder left 120 million guaranteed, Konowski had a fight lined up to fight Joshua only for Haymon to decline now he loses to Helenius and you know he is not going to get another high profile fight for a while. At a lot of lower weight his fighters are sitting up to a year at a time before they fight...

    is Haymon sacrificing their careers by trying to have his fighters only fight PBC fighters where he gets money from both boxers putting his brand above doing what is best for their careers?
     
  2. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That's pretty obviously happening. Wilder, Broner, Kownacki, even Ortiz etc. He's making many of them pass on record paydays just so he can keep things in house.

    He's become the new Don King of boxing, he offers boxers a cut of merchandising and food sales at the venue, making them earn a bit more and they think wow they are getting a great deal because other boxers are not getting a cut of that but then he turns down career high pay days that would dwarf whatever extra's he is throwing them all to ensure his fighters usually only fight his fighters with the odd rare exception when he has nothing to lose.

    The whole black power angle too. You know he's painted Eddie Hearn, Bob Arums etc as the white guys who just want to rip off a brother, much like Don King did to Tyson with Cayton and Jacobs just so he could rip them off for millions himself.

    And the crazy thing is his fighters have fallen for it and will defend him and their choices, believing they are better off. Remember all the talk by Wilder of Eddie Hearn taking a big cut of Joshua's money. When in reality SKY paid Joshua's company and Joshua then paid Hearn. But of course Wilder and all the other mental midgets have been told again and again, it's all a con, Joshua's and Whyte and Fury's will end up broke and suing their thieving promoters while they all sit back and know Al is looking out for them when he turns down 9 figure deals, lol.
     
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  3. jmb1356

    jmb1356 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Well that Counter Punch documentary implied Mayweather and Haymon were the villains of the sport.
     
  4. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That's what you get when a promoter is associated with certain networks. It's also why we never see fighters from PBC or TopRank in the WBSS tournaments.
     
  5. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Couldn't have put it better myself

    PBC is toxic
     
  6. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Haymons greatest trick was to convince the world that Wilder and Kownacki are world class HWs.

    Haymon has done brilliant job with such limited fighters. How much longer could he keep them continuing to fight guys the level of Washington and Spzilka?

    Haymon has cost his fighters big paydays though. Kownacki & Ortiz turning down AJ offers. Getting Wilder to turn down $120is the most absurd thing ever.
     
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  7. Tankatron

    Tankatron Boxing Addict Full Member

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    PBC/ LDBC/ Barbershop Conversationalist etc. supporter...........but, but, but Joshua turned down a $50 million offer sent by Wilder in a Moonpigs.com card so he's a duckin Mutha Trukka!

    Finally people are waking up to the fact that the worst thing for boxing would be for Al Haymon and the PBC to hold all the Heavyweight belts. You would have round robins between the likes of Kownacki, Wilder and Ortizn't stagnating the division into an all time low. Plus with everything that's transpired over the last few months, why the eff these fighters aren't abandoning the PBC in droves, I'll never know.

    Haymon has cost Kownacki somewhere in the region of $5 million, Ortizn't $7 million, and Beoncey 'Dumbest Fukk in the history of Heavyweight boxing' Windy Miller a whopping $120 million. You couldn't make this **** up.
     
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  8. Bigdog2002

    Bigdog2002 Active Member Full Member

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    I said it before, pbc has its agenda and could give effs about his fighters and it’s showing! He brainwashed them into thinking he truly cares! He cares about pbc and that’s it!
     
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  9. jaytxxl

    jaytxxl Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Majority of his fighter are nuts turning down big paydays.. But they essentially matched Wilders offer to turn down DAZN he made $20 mil each to face Breazeale and Ortiz and guaranteed $28 mil for Fury 1 which he probably will make $32-$35 mil and will a $25 million guarantee in the Fury trilogy.. And they matched Ortiz $7 million in his Wilder fight..

    But Tank, Charlo, Plant, Kownacki were terribly mismanaged being forced to turn down a lot of huge offers. It doesn’t make since at all but I do know a lot of Waddell & Reed’s initial investment money has disappeared so it wouldn’t surprise me if a lot of those fighters are seeing that money behind the scenes which has been mentioned before.. I honestly don’t know but a lot for it is not making sense
     
  10. radupidu

    radupidu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nah, the blame is on the fighters for passing on Joshua's offer ( Wilder ) , Roc Nation's offer ( Broner ) and Eddie Hearn's offer ( the Charlos) . Thats not on Al Haymon, actually he's been very good for fighters, his stable gets the fattest checks for the easiest fights....thats my problem with the PBC as fight fan. And actually that has caused them to become delusional, but Al took care of them, some much so that his stable have become more businessmen than boxers
     
  11. radupidu

    radupidu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I dont buy the narrative that Wilder, Charlos and comp. were forced to refuse big fights. BS ...the fighters were content with what they had
     
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  12. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Al Haymon is their Advisor.
    He advises them to turn down the fights.
     
  13. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 The Empire Struck Back Full Member

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    They then fired Di Bella for even considering it. Finkel knows to toe Al's line after that and he knows plenty about spending other people's money on doomed projects so he's perfect as a PBC stooge.
     
  14. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    Al Haymon has an uncanny ability to advise his fighters out of millions of dollars!
    He's the best adviser one could have.
     
  15. radupidu

    radupidu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes he advised them to stay with PBC, but the fighter makes the decision.
    Daniel Jacobs didnt do what the Charlos did. He took Hearn's offer.
    Didnt Al advise him too ?
    But Jacobs has cojones, unlike the Charlos Cubs only lol