Agreed, Tyson slots below Marciano though imo. Spinks is just as, if not more accomplished at HW than Tunney. Wlad any lower than 8 is inarguable imo. Same with Marciano higher than 7.
It is easy enough to argue the case for Marciano being ahead of them based on resume. He beat everybody ffs! As for Tunney in the top 30, just being the legitimately the best on the planet, is arguably enough for top 30. What about people like me who endorse parts of it?
I have Louis 1, Ali 2 and Marciano 3- I would also rate Lennox over Holmes and Vlad higher but that's just me. I was always a fan of John L. Sullivan but Always kept him separate because of the bareknuckle history but the guy was a beast. The rating are better than some of the so-called experts out there
I have Tyson over Marciano based on better competition head to head. But they occupy about the same space on my list so I'm not going to die on that hill. Wlad is most def top 10. He just dominated too long and too emphatically, barely giving away a round for the better part of a decade, all while maintaining a consistent, relatively busy schedule.
Not in a reasonable sense unless you include historical/societal influence. In regards to heavyweight opponents beaten, Wlad's resume sh*ts all over Johnson's.
I think the most dubious rating is Dempsey at #4. He didn't even beat the best of his own time. Also agree that Jeffries should rate above Sullivan. And also for me above Dempsey.
Dempsey and Tunney out of the 10, Lewis up a fair way and Marciano down a little. Seen so much worse.