If you consider Helenius TKO4 Kownacki a massive upset... don't.

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  1. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Povetkin vs. Takam was great. Don't think there's been many if any HW fights better since.
     
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  2. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    Don’t twist the facts. McCline went the distance with Valuev, Peter, and Ruiz before Arreola ended him in four rounds. Whatever happened after that in his career doesn’t matter.

    Takam was almost 40 and was never a real contender. He never beat anyone. McCline did.
     
  3. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 The Empire Struck Back Full Member

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    Kownacki's hype was all people looking to give PBC/Wilder/Haymon a boost. People genuinely believed Helenius was great. He wasn't.
     
  4. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    Breazeale - Ugonoh is up there too.
     
  5. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    What should embarrass you is that some guy who is perma-fringe gets regarded like Ray Mercer or someone similar only because he’s from the UK. You’d be calling him an ATG if he’d beaten Herbie Hide.
     
  6. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    Arreola Kownacki too.
     
  7. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 The Empire Struck Back Full Member

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    Except no-none is talking about him like that. He's being compared to Chris ****ing Arreola and you can't stop the circus music whirring around your brain for long enough to think that's legitimate because of your inherent biases.
     
  8. kirk

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    What the hell did I just watch.

    That these two were in a fight for a title shot is embarrassing to boxing.
     
  9. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Giving Arreola credit for beating what clearly was a spent Mccline (who shortly later lost to a very poor journeyman with a losing record) would be on par with considering Rahman as one Povetkins best wins which no one does as he was clearly completely past it.
     
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  10. Sugar 88

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    He knows he's made a series of stupid comments here but he's too stubborn to stop digging this hole he's found himself in.
     
  11. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Banks, Klitschko's coach destroyed that bum as well.
     
  12. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not true, Valuev ended Mcline early, but the rest is correct.
     
  13. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 The Empire Struck Back Full Member

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    Takam has a series of good performances against top tier fighters on a strong resume. It's not like Ortiz had much better than that and people acted like he was this amazing scalp for Deontay despite his age and lack of signature win.
     
  14. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    The Brit Envy is to be expected. It comes with the territory when you're the best, this dominant, and you're sitting atop of the throne. It's an absolutely amazing achievement for the tiny island of Great Britain to have annexed all the belts and to rule the HW division and mark my words we will rule it with an iron rod.
     
  15. Sugar 88

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    But why does No Mark have to be so utterly dishonest with himself in his assessments? It's a bad look for him to start bringing up Seth Mitchell like that is any way going to help his little cause here.
     
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