All-Time Greatest P4P - One Punch KO power

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  1. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    You don't understand physics...
     
  2. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I am looking at PSI (the end result)

    • 108lbs Naoya Inoue hits at 850 PSI
    • 300lbs Dillian Whyte hits at 1050 PSI
    • 205lbs Deontay Wilder hits at 1350 PSI
    The obvious explanation is that PSI increases with Speed & Height.
    • Wilder is taller than Whyte
    • Wilder is faster than Whyte
    • Whyte is heavier than Wilder
     
  3. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Where do you want to put Dillian Whyte P4P! If a boxer is Obese (natural or not), he will never make it on a P4P list, especially if he is also low on PSI in his weight
    • 1.00-P4P: P-40MPH | 0850psi | 165cm | 108lbs; Manny Pacquiao
    • 1.00-P4P: P-40MPH | 0850psi | 165cm | 108lbs; Naoya Inoue
    • 0.99-P4P: P-36MPH | 0900psi | 174cm | 115lbs; Sandy Saddler
    • 0.99-P4P: P-36MPH | 0900psi | 174cm | 115lbs; Carlos Zarate
    • 0.97-P4P: P-34MPH | 0900psi | 178cm | 118lbs; Alexis Arguello
    • 0.95-P4P: P-31MPH | 1100psi | 185cm | 147lbs; Thomas Hearns
    • 0.87-P4P: P-31MPH | 1050psi | 182cm | 154lbs; Julian Jackson
    • 0.83-P4P: P-30MPH | 1050psi | 183cm | 160lbs; Gerald McClellan
    • 0.83-P4P: P-28MPH | 1150psi | 191cm | 175lbs; Bob Foster
    • 0.83-P4P: P-26MPH | 1350psi | 201cm | 207lbs; Deontay Wilder
     
  4. DoubleJab666

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    And completely ignoring a pivotal force. Like I say, you don't understand physics.

    Your data should be named the Dunning-Kruger Power Calculus....
     
  5. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    And not enough time on his tablets...
     
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  6. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Right, which is why people have weight classes instead of height classes.

    You talk bollocks mate.

    I know for a fact I punched way harder after I put on 20lbs of muscle. How do I know? I was sparring bigger guys and hurting them. For more empirical relative data, I scored much higher on the punching machine. Of course that doesn’t mean anything, hence why I said “relative” as the score is compared to my score 20lbs lighter.

    It’s called mass. Force = mass x acceleration.
     
  7. eltirado

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    The thread title is specific All-Time Greatest P4P - One Punch KO power

    If I missed somebody that you think should be in the list drop the name...In previous posts other aspects of punching (other than raw power) were discussed, its a much bigger subject. This one is straight forward & the list are of names we easily accept as the P4P hardest punchers
     
  8. eltirado

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    Boxing will lose its appeal if it becomes a Height-class sport, height finds its way by default, its better that way, the majority of boxers exist to lose & make a living, only a few boxers become the Elite...(as everything in life).
     
  9. eltirado

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    Naseem Hamed definitely one of the Best Punchers of all time, but he is in the same category as Mike Tyson (Great Impact punchers)

    If you want a visualize this:
    5'08" Junior Jones raw power defeating Marco Antonio Barrera twice, Junior Jones a solid Bantamweight puncher (beat MAB at 122)
    5'03" Hamed caught disoriented opponents with punches they never saw, MAB neutralized it by focus & a disciplined Jab!

    Junior Jones obviously had more raw power although less skilled than MAB his raw power was the equalizer, Hamed had more skills that allowed to get better impact vs opponents who find Hamed uncomfortably close. Once Hamed skills were no longer effective vs the taller, rangier high level skilled MAB, he couldn't be effective.
     
  10. TBI

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    So what makes these "facts"? Facts are provable. The burden of proof lies on you.

    The drivel above isnt provable. You speak in absolutes and still cannot provide what experiments or instruments have been used to gather this information.

    To say that a guy at a given height cannot put out a certain power as an absolute is ridiculous.

    Please stop this nonsense.
     
  11. The Akbar One

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    Cuban pedophile Felix Savon put Tua in la la land with amateur gloves on. He would break the bones of opponents with single shots to the face or ribs.
     
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  12. eltirado

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    If someone was going to expose Tua for what he is (skilled 5'10" impact puncher)...Then its Felix Savon at 6'05" was able to generate +1200 PSI & with his skills he will be landing at higher impact than any other heavyweight.

    Felix Savon skills/power combination as a Pro will be hazardous at any era, even as a shorter 6'05". However, something about the Pro-ranks that jinxes seemingly perfect Amateurs, so we can't be 100% sure he will be able to dominate the same way as a Pro.
     
  13. eltirado

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    Height + Speed, that is all it takes
     
  14. Eggman

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    Man it’s gotta be the hawk Julian jackson. He turned people into zombies