James J Jefferies vs Riddick Bowe

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Who wins and how

  1. Jefferies KO

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  2. Jefferies TKO

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  3. Jefferies UD

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  4. Jefferies SD

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  5. Draw

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  6. Bowe KO

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  7. Bowe TKO

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  8. Bowe UD

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  9. Bowe SD

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  1. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lol
     
  2. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fitzsimmons was also a middleweight when he fought Dempsey.
    Fitzsimmons was also small LHW when he fought Gardner. Gardner had 30 KOs in 42 wins, doesn't sound bad. Besides, we are talking about boxing ability and Gardner was decent boxer who was also almost twice younger than Fitz.
     
  3. Furey

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    Bowe and without much trouble.
     
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  4. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Gołota gave Bowe hell, Jeffries was more durable and also liked body attacks. Not that unreasonable to see him struggling.
     
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  5. Mendoza

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    Bowe said Herbie Hide him him the hardest and was visibly hurt a few times by Golota. Jeffries hit harder than these guys. IMO, Bowe doesn't match up well vs punchers, a reason he avoided Lewis and never had matches with the likes to Tua, Morrison ( Bowe's manager didn't want the fight after Morrison defeated Foreman ), Ike, and others.
     
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  6. mcvey

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    Dempsey was then a welter weight.Gardner was a decent boxer but 168lbs as was Fitz.
     
  7. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Nope, I'll concede Fitz was a 39 years old serious opponent.
     
  8. mcvey

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    Now we are qualifying with, "in the 220lbs range"
     
  9. 70sFan865

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    So what? It wasn't easy to outbox either one of them. Fitz was good fighter who used variety of tactics depending on opponent and adjusted very well during fights.

    He didn't try to outbox Corbett, he just wanted to land powerful punches to the body. Which is why he lured Corbett with his wild swings to the head, Jim thought that he was safe because he dodged these punches. We all know how it ended.
     
  10. 70sFan865

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    So being fit 219 lbs is not a proof of him carrying 220 lbs well? Come on, you just argue for arguing sake.
     
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  11. mcvey

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    You base this on all the footage you have seen of both?
     
  12. mcvey

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    I didn't dig you out ,you came after me.lol
     
  13. 70sFan865

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    And you base your statements on this era on footage?
     
  14. 70sFan865

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    I don't, I just said that he carried 220 lbs really well.
     
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  15. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I base it on 4 books on Fitzsimmons and others, and over 100 years of boxing evolution . Do you think Dempsey and Gardner would be champions today? How many of Dempsey's opponents had over 15 total fights? Seventeen fight Jack Johnson totally outclassed Gardner who resigned himself to defeat early and just settled for lasting the distance.
     
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