Honestly, whats the blueprint to beat Tyson Fury

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  1. navigator

    navigator "Billy Graham? He's my man." banned Full Member

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    You just obliterated all those grumbling, grousing, pleading, bellyaching, wailing extenuations for all eternity in two lines. Lewis was in far worse, far more sluggish condition than Wladimir ever came to a ring in, and the TKO defeat to him remained Vitaly's best win right until the end (or at least it was touted as such by Vitaly's supporters, who could never let it go). A 38 y/o, potbellied Sanders (whose stamina was never too hot even in his younger days) also gave Vitaly a good go, is probably the elder Klitschko's true best win.

    Vitaly was legitimately somewhat of a crock by the time he hung them up, he could have fairly been excused a defeat to a Haye (although he was still heavily favored in that one) or a whomever toward the end, but Wlad was in plenty good shape, energetic, spry, explosively hard-hitting and still able to pull the trigger when his acquired cautious streak permitted – he just ran into better, much more capable men than he'd ever encountered in the ten years prior.
     
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  2. herbzg

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  3. navigator

    navigator "Billy Graham? He's my man." banned Full Member

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    As far as the bold goes, I see where you're coming from in theory. It's just the talk of trapping Fury and working him inside that strikes me as incongruous with a Tysonesque approach – although Tyson was capable of working a man against the ropes if he was obliging, wounded or tired enough to go there and let him open up, he wasn't an infighter at all, his successes were primarily at mid-range in center ring, and that's where Mike would have his chances to make use of his power, speed and explosiveness against Fury. (Check Tyson-Bruno I, for example, where a fatigued and hurt Frank lays back against the ropes – even in finishing off his prey from that position, Tyson has left some space between he and Bruno in which to work his mid-range combinations.) Fury is very adept at escaping corners when he wishes to and has everything he needs to just tie Tyson up besides (and Tyson was always willing to be tied up if he got past the mid-range without hurting his man, so that the official could then reset him to a position more conducive to his boxing); unless he's already badly hurt or is hit with something leaping, Fury isn't taking hits from Tyson on the ropes.


    As for the thread question in general, I always say that stylists make fights much moreso than styles per se.
     
  4. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I'm your huckleberry, that's just mah game Full Member

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    Usyk would beat him. If Fury fights someone faster and trickier than him whose head he can't get into he's done for. Saying that, Fury's style change to big heavy handed destroyer would give Usyk a lot of problems.
     
  5. Tramell

    Tramell Hypocrites Love to Pray & Be Seen. Mathew 6:5 Full Member

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    Several ways to beat him. But with only 32 fights under his belt, not like he has faced every style known. Wallin proved he can be busted up. Wilder proved he can be dropped. Wladimir proved he can stink up a low punch output that Fury will oblige.

    Since we haven't had a young versatile boxer take him on with some brains and some power, no one he's faced as been able to complete the blueprint for 12 rounds.
     
  6. Doppleganger

    Doppleganger Southside Slugger Full Member

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    Well, what's the point of even people like me posting if you won't properly engage in debate and condede points where you feel inclined? You're a staff member, shouldn't you be above all this pettiness?
     
  7. navigator

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    I think Serge has just become jaded over time and generally prefers to amuse himself by offering exaggerated/distorted Hall of Mirrors versions of his opinion. At least he was gracious about it. :lol:
     
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  8. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    To be honest, you lost me when you said that Julian Jackson was a bigger puncher than Wlad and Bootleg D.

    You can take that comment seriously too if you want.
     
  9. Braindamage

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    Agreed, Tyson did h iui s best work mid-range. In terms of a style to beat Fury, a combination of James Toney, Golovkin and Mike Tyson.
     
  10. Doppleganger

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    Well, clearly you've not bothered to read my post correctly as nowhere in my post did I say or imply that.
     
  11. LeeD1982

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    Limited perhaps but Sanders could really bang.

    He's one of those who could beat almost anyone on a given day
     
  12. LeeD1982

    LeeD1982 Active Member Full Member

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    If Fury had fought Haye back in '13 as planned, I think Haye would have iced him.

    Fury was still blocking punches with his face back then and Haye's right hand was a nuclear weapon
     
  13. Eggman

    Eggman "The cream of the crop! Nobody does it better! Full Member

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    Very limited. Shocking conditioning. Excellent sneaky left- the sniper.
    Decent chin. Game. stated that his true passion was golf but boxed because his hand -eye coordination was excellent, and I suppose a tough guy

    B-
     
  14. SmackDaBum

    SmackDaBum TKO7 banned Full Member

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    Thats not true. Just compare Wlad's jab from Haye to Jennings.
     
  15. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone Full Member

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    Yeh well that's undeveloped fury vs experienced savvy dangerous haye. Haye couldn't do much to current fury. He hardly throw more than 5 a round against a 7'2 statue.