Simple really. Who's your top 10 P4P ATGs. I know this has been done before but I doubt it has like this. We're doing a special on the podcast based on our own individual top 10s, sorta like what @Flea Man did, (obviously we'll do it better and more funny. ) and I'd love to pick some brains. So, you show yours, or a rough estimation, and I play devil's advocate to EVERYTHING to see what different roots you could take or thought patterns you could make. Note: I'll show mine after the podcast. For now, I'm just probing and looking into different arguments; how you combat them ect.
Damn... Mayweather Duran Pep Greb Louis Ali Marciano Robinson Jones jr Charles No particular order. I don’t expect many lists to be identical and I change my mind everyday lol so this may be different tomorrow
Sugar Ray Robinson Harry Greb Henry Armstrong Sam Langford Ezzard Charles Roberto Duran Benny Leonard Willie Pep Eder Jofre Joe Gans or Micky Walker Like everyone else I have inconsistencies in rationales. I really do value how great a fighters overall skill set and ability where especially if it’s been tested and passed with flying colors.
To be honest I didn’t even want to include Greb as to why I didn’t put Fitz or Langford. I’m not a fan of pre 1930s boxing as it’s almost a different sport entirely. Had to put one pre 1930s guy figured it would be Greb. Marciano because p4p there was no one that was beating him 180-200 imo. And on a p4p scale that’s pretty good imo. If it was an overall scale he would have dropped another several spots. Leonard was great but I don’t consider him top ten. Ten-20 sure just don’t have him there Mayweather to me is the best to ever strap them on.
I like that top 5. Especially with the combined criteria. Any consideration for SRL, Louis, Moore, Ali ect.?
1. Sugar Ray Robinson 2. Harry Greb 3. Muhammad Ali 4. Sam Langford 5. Henry Armstrong 6. Roberto Duran 7. Benny Leonard 8. Willie Pep 9. Sugar Ray Leonard 10. Ezzard Charles
No order: Fitzsimmons Langford Benny Leonard Greb Armstrong Charles Robinson Pep Moore Duran Something like this? I don't know, haven't done my p4p list before. I'd like to consider Walker and Ryan too.
Yeah definitely. I wouldn’t argue with any of those guys in the top 10. Wilde, Burley, Fitzsimmons etc; all on the cusp. Ross, Canzoneri, Macfarland etc; it’s very hard.
10. Mike Tyson 9. Ken Norton 8. Salvador Sanchez 7. George Foreman 6. Marvin Hagler 5. Sugar Ray Robinson 4. Larry Holmes 3. Floyd Mayweather JR 2. Joe Frazier 1. Muhammad Ali
