Best I Faced: Mike Weaver

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  1. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    From The Ring:

    BEST JAB
    Larry Holmes:
    Larry Holmes and Razor Ruddock had the best jab. I think Larry Holmes was the best out of the two. It was accurate and straight. It wasn’t a hard jab; it was a good jab. Pinklon Thomas’ jab was harder than Larry Holmes but as far as being better and looking better, I say Holmes – it was faster.

    BEST DEFENSE
    Razor Ruddock:
    I couldn’t land a good shot on him because he kept moving.

    BEST HANDSPEED
    Michael Dokes:
    He had fast hands. Real fast and snappy, not that he was a powerful puncher but he had good handspeed. He had a fast jab, hook, everything.

    BEST FOOTWORK
    Dokes:
    That would go to Holmes, Ruddock and Dokes. Dokes had fast feet. I’ll pick Dokes.

    SMARTEST
    Holmes:
    Larry Holmes knew what to do; he was a thinking fighter. He wasn’t going to just run in there. Everything worked off his jab.

    STRONGEST
    James “Bonecrusher” Smith:
    Lennox Lewis was strong. Bernardo Mercado, he was strong. Bonecrusher Smith was very strong too. Out of them three, I’ll take Bonecrusher; he was bigger than me and physically strong.

    BEST PUNCHER
    Bernardo Mercado:
    Bernardo Mercado was a hard puncher. He dropped me in the gym when we sparred and then we fought and he dropped me in a fight also and I knocked him out the next round. Bonecrusher was a hard puncher, very strong. Gerrie Coetzee was a very hard puncher. Lennox was a hard puncher. I always tell people Bernardo Mercado was the hardest puncher I fought because I was in the prime of my life. I was like 27 years old. Lennox Lewis and Bonecrusher Smith were hard punchers but I fought them in my 30s and 40s.

    BEST CHIN
    Gerrie Coetzee:
    Gerrie Coetzee had the best chin. He had never been knocked down in over 200 amateur fights and when I fought him, [he already had] 24 professional fights and they say [he was] never hurt. I knocked him down.

    BEST BOXING SKILLS
    Holmes:
    That’s Larry Holmes and Dokes. Just one: Larry Holmes. He could do it all.

    BEST OVERALL
    Holmes:
    I told Larry I ranked him in the top 10 best heavyweights of all time. He was determined. I can’t think of anyone else that was better than him.
     
  2. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict

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    I bet his comments on Ruddock raise some eyebrows. How many remember that Razor began his career as a jab and move type?
     
  3. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I do. Actually watch the fight and they specifically say "Donavan is NOT a puncher!"
     
  4. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This sounds like one of the most honest ones out of these.
     
  5. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I remember the fight too. Your right, he was a total boxer at the time. I also remember him being trained by George Chuvalo who was working his corner. Don't know what happened to that arrangement.
     
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  6. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I thought so too, except for the part about best chin. The laurels should go to a fighter you hit with the kitchen sink and can't knock out.
     
  7. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It is Hercules looking out for Weaver, he still needs to sell himself!

    We know it looks good on the resume when you can point you stopped someone for the first time.
     
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  8. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Yup. He had a nice jab at the start. Once he fell in love with The Smash, that all went out the window. A wasted talent in that respect.
     
  9. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    Other than Gerry Coatzee having the best chin this is a pretty honest and consistent review.
     
  10. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Can't expect it to be 100%. :)
     
  11. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    From his point of view I think that’s accurate. Weaver used to pole axe guys when he tagged them but Coetzee just wasn’t going anywhere. I recently watched the Weaver Coetzee fight and was very impressed by the sheer physical strength and durability of Coetzee. Weaver really tagged him at the end and it still didn’t put Gerrie out. he was almost up at ten. eventually tiredness more than punches that really got him.
     
  12. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah the Weaver fight was the first time I saw Ruddock. He fought a smart fight.
     
  13. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    Weaver had some impressive ko's but how many actual elite heavies or solid chinned ranked guys did he stop? He isn't exactly the bench mark for determining if someone can take elite punching power. I think it's a little strange to pick a guy you stopped when there were not one, not two, but several opponents who went the distance with you and weren't even dropped let alone KO'd. And it's not like Coatzee had a Chuvalo/McCall level chin either, he would go on to get stopped multiple times.

    It sounds more like self promotion. He's a fighter, so a little bit of ego is expected and acceptable (within reason), but even from just his own perspective the answer doesn't make much sense when even journeymen like Scott Ledoux and Bert Cooper (who were stopped several times and far from elusive targets) went the distance with Weaver.
     
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  14. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I do. That is where he got the name "Razor."

    He fell in love with his own power after the Dokes fight, and was never that great thereafter because his chin and stamina were iffy (he claimed asthma). If he would have stuck with boxing might have of been a champ.
     
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  15. Unforgiven

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    Dokes having the best footwork and "fast feet" is the only real surprise.
     
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