Worse chin, Joshua or Wilder?

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  1. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Wilder and Fury have boxed 20 rounds. Fury has won 18 of them. It hasn’t been competitive at all. Wilder’s title defenses have been more Breazeale’s and very few Fury’s or Ortiz’s. Do you understand this?
    Wilder has been a protected and coddled Glass Jawed fighter.
     
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  2. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Okay smart ass, when did I do this? Since you said, "next time" implying I already did it.

    I can guarantee the case you can pull up, if any, has note-worthy wins of his own.
    Of course it matters. But it doesn't make you any better when you can't beat them, yet someone else is waiting for their pointless trilogy to take place and is fighting top contenders left, right and centre.
    Whyte has KOed Chisora and dropped Parker, iced Browne in a disgusting KO and visibly has monsterous power. It's the peak of disingenuousness to act like he doesn't. Although that's what you tend to get with Wilder fans.

    Povetkin, another guys who highlight real speaks for himself, has KOed Wach, Takam, Charr, Perez, Duhaupas and hell, Byrd and Rahman were around Ortiz' age...

    Parker, a man who had fought Whyte and Joshua, said Ruiz hit him the hardest. He also has a better win than anything Wilder could sniff at.

    Wilder's ONLY world level KOs are over a 40 year old heart patient. The fact you question other's credibility is laughable and a little sad.

    Well done, mate. Maybe one day you'll get the hang of it, eh?
     
  3. WildersGlassJaw

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    Seriously??? It's not even close. You never saw Joshua hitting the deck against guys like Nichols or Sconiers.
     
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  4. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    * Whyte KOed Chisora AND Brown (who Allen also stopped) ... and you're clearly afraid to list three.
    * Parker ... you list no one because you realize the list is non-existant (who are the three best guys he stopped?)
    * Povetkin KOed Charr, Perez (that ranks Povetkin right up their with the best cruiserweight punchers) and he stopped Duhaupas when Johan came in on 24 hours notice when Povetkin failed his drug test (a fight that was universally crucified in the press for having been staged).

    Yes, real dangerous punchers all of them. (LOL)

    And you didn't even bother with Ruiz. Outside of Joshua, it's comical. Ruiz is no puncher at all. (Which says a lot about Joshua's chin that he crashed four times and was stopped.)
     
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  5. miniq

    miniq Tyson Fury Undisputed HW Champion 18/5/24 Full Member

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    Both are jelly leg dossers
     
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  6. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Another lie. Wilder won two rounds on Glen Feldman's official card in the rematch, and seven rounds on Alejandro Rochin's official card in the first fight. That's NINE rounds right there.

    You should be banned for lying.
     
  7. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 The Empire Struck Back Full Member

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    As if you're going to try to use Joshua's far superior level of opposition in a far shorter time against him here. Lunacy.

    As others have said had Wilder come up the way Joshua did it's unlikely it would have ended well for him.
     
  8. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It isn't FAR SUPERIOR if he's never faced the WORLD Champion yet, let alone twice (with a third fight coming up next).

    I don't know why you guys keep typing that. Repeating a lie won't make it true.

    Joshua has never faced anyone as good as Tyson Fury ever! Wilder's fought him twice, and is meeting him for their rubber match in October.

    Wilder has faced a superior level of opposition compared to Joshua.

    Joshua hasn't had the superior resume for YEARS now. He certainly doesn't have the superior resume now.

    And Joshua has the worst chin.
     
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  9. andrewe

    andrewe Ezekiel 33 banned Full Member

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    Wilder for the reasons everyone is listing, lol.

    Wilder also doesn't know how to fight a losing-fight, and by that I mean doesn't know how to fight when someone can take his right hand, or completely outbox him to the point of nullifying his right hand. He can't box, essentially.

    That doesn't make him a bad fighter, anyone who captures a major title is obviously good and skilled, but really it feels like he got it just off of power alone.

    Who knows? Maybe he comes back at 45 like Foreman and this time has the skillset. I hope so, would make for great viewing!
     
  10. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 The Empire Struck Back Full Member

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    The above is such a massive fail it's unreal.

    Joshua's resume for where he is now in their relative careers pisses all over Wilder's CV and him winning his title from an incumbent champion means nothing really considering it was won as a vacant title itself a fight back against a guy who Stiverne had already beaten. It didn't really have any more credible a lineage than the titles Joshua won against Martin, Parker and Wlad.

    You brought up that Joshua has been dropped 5 times in 20 fights like Wilder had been fighting the same level of competition across all of his fights. You're being intellectually dishonest in your appraisal and you know it. When Joshua was fighting Wlad, Wilder was fighting the likes of Dominique Alexander and Tony Cota. Let that sink in.

    Wilder was a big punching hype job who got exposed as a boxer by a still recovering Fury who then gave him an absolute paddling in the rematch and you still can't see him for what he is. Beating a 40 something never was and getting your ass handed to you doesn't make Wilder what you think it does.
     
  11. DynamicMoves

    DynamicMoves Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I guess would you rather be knocked out in 7 by Ruiz Jr. or Fury?
     
  12. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Oh please. And Leon Spinks' record pisses all over Joshua's in their relative careers because Leon was outpointing Ali over 15 rounds in his eighth fight and Joshua was fighting Konstantin Airich!!

    Is that all you've got?

    They are peers. And Wilder has faced the better opposition. That has been the case for quite some time now. And it isn't changing anytime soon (as Widler is fighting Fury again next while Joshua is fighting Pulev).

    And Wilder has the better chin.
     
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  13. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    SHHHH. You can't ask that. Joshua was nervous. So everyone is just pretending that four-knockdown loss to Ruiz never happened.

    But if you want to shine a spotlight on Wilder anytime he blinked after a punch landed, go crazy. (LOL)
     
  14. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 The Empire Struck Back Full Member

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    If I were trying to talk down Spinks for getting stopped in his first 10 fights whilst saying Joshua won his first 10 and not taking the level of opposition into account then yes I'd be as stupid as you were being.

    You made a ridiculous point about Joshua getting dropped more in less fights than Wilder like your boy wasn't crushing absolute cans inflating his record. It's stupidity was astounding.

    Wilder thought he was getting the ghost of Fury which is why he agreed that fight having no idea that he was finally stepping up. He then got his ass handed to him twice. Once via boxing clinic the other by absolute paddling. Deal with it.
     
  15. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Of course they are. You're just so bias and ridiculous you can't see it. If none of those class as punchers, Wilder has gone 40 odd fights without facing ANY.

    Let that sink in.

    Joshua > Wilder

    Deal with it.