Every thread you post, you are lighting the boards up. You are a troll...and idiot. So everything you post is trolling and idiocy by definition. Rather than learn a lesson from Wilder flopping the very first time he fought a good and healthy opponent, you have just retreated more deeply into denial. You are exactly like Wilder himself. HHmmmm. Are you Deontay Wilder? Naw. Your grammer isn't that bad. I repeat: Wilder hits about as hard as Fury, nothing more. Since you didn't read, I will explain it again. Fury was, until his last fight, a scientific boxer who did not set down on his punches. Wilder was a street fighter who could to nothing but swing for the fences. Because they matched Wilder against bums and divers, it made his power look greater than it was. Because Fury did not try to knock his opponents out, it made him look a little lesser. By the way, THIS WAS EXACTLY WHAT FURY SAID AFTER HE HUMILIATED YOUR BOY. And in case you didn't notice, this thread was made a very long time ago. It has proven to be prophetic by anyone not an idiot. Good night Deontay. He does not have one of the hardest right hands ever. He would have to stop someone worth a **** to make the claim. It is exactly the same as when people used to claim that Tommy Morrison had the "left gook from hell," and all that crap. You have to beat good fighters to make these claims. He had dropped everyone he fought because he fought bums, part-time fighters, paid divers, and medically unfit opponents. He dropped Fury because in the first fight, Fury was part of that last category, having lost more than 100 pounds. Wilder has very good power, THE SAME AS FURY WHEN HE SETS DOWN, but it is not in that elite category. He would have to beat some real opponents for that to be true. So, its been over two years. We have seen one higher level fight in Fury II. Part I does not count because Fury lost over 100 pounds, kicked a coke habit, and jumped in the ring. Nor does Ortiz count, since this is a man with a heart condition who had difficulty getting cleared to fight. In reality, he has had one, and just one, higher level fight. How did that turn out for him and what do we think of his power now? And yet my original post was clearly delineated, truer than ever, and echoed by Fury himself after he took Wilder's soul. So perhaps I am not the one who needs to think before he speaks, because I've done pretty well, here.
As always catchwtboxing, you make some good points there. Fury (after his hiatus) wasn't quite at his best in that first fight but he took the fight anyway. I guess you could also add to support your point that, Wilders not that powerful because Fury tasted the power and decided he was going to go forward in the rematch, which is something you don't normally do when you're scared of someones power. I'm not a fan of calling fighters bums (although I say it sometimes) but I do agree that a lot of Wilders opponents haven't really displayed a good level of boxing ability compared to the level of the opponents that AJs had. However thats the opponents Deontay was given, and he still had to knock them out. 2 seconds is one punch power and thats what Deontay believed was all that he had to be perfect for in his fights. I'll have to disagree with you in saying he has to beat good fighters to make a claim as one of the hardest hitting right hands. If they could accurately measure the power of every boxers cross or overhand, I think Wilder would be up there with the modern day heavyweights. I also wouldn't be surprised if a no name or someone thats lower down the rankings was up there as well. Landing it, as you already know, is another thing. It gets harder to land it (and frequently if need be) the further up the opposition ladder you go.
Washington was another premature stoppage of Wilder. Just look how easy going he walks away after referee waves of the fight.
LOL Old ATG! You critisize Wilder for fighting cab drivers and old men, yet give props to Fury for fighting an way out of prime, 40 YO Wlad? Come on, be consistant and fair in your assessment. Otherwise you look like a hating fanboy.
Wilder is a broken man. Send the useless dosser back out to fury to finish him off once and for all. He got what ever little amount of brains he had beaten out of him already
If they really had similar power, Wilder would've left the ring on a strecher instead of getting stopped on his feet.
Wilder's single punch power is far higher than Fury's. Fury breaks down opponents, he doesn't finish them off with a single shot. Major different in power and fighting styles there.
This is the post of an idiot. He may have been 39, but he was a great champion, and Fury unseated him from his reign when 18 others had failed. You can ask no more of a fighter than to beat the real champ. Yes, I insult Wilder because his record is a fraud. Nowhere did I say cab drivers--they were medically unfit fighters, professional divers, a school teacher, a pastry chef, etc. And it was a shameful. Do you actually have brain damage? Let me rephrase that: you actually have brain damage. Against sick fighters and guys who are not qualified to be at championship level. His power looks great against Stiverne, who actually has some sort of blood disease from being obese, and Ortiz, who almost could not fight due to his high blood pressure. He sure looks to have the one-punch KO power against a gatekeeper former cruiser like Szpilka, or a school-teacher like Molina. The only time we have seen his power against a healthy, young, world-class opponent was in Fury II, and the power wasn't there. Fury got hit by a couple of rights, and...nothing. Wilder hits about as hard as Fury, maybe little harder. But no "freaky power" or "harder than Shavers" power. He's a good puncher, as is Fury.
Wilder punches harder than Fury, but I've said for the longest while that Fury hits a lot harder than he looks. He just doesn't sit down on his punches because he prefers to potshot at range. Well, we saw what happened when he did sit down on his shots. He's got very heavy thudding power which is a lot more devastating due to the speed and angles he throws at. Wilder on the other hand is only good with one shot, the right hand, which he generates power with by leaping forward and throwing his whole body weight into the shot. Back him up or prevent him from getting his feet set and he can't punch particularly hard at all. His left hook, his short right, his uppercut and bodyshot are all average or nonexistent shots for him.
Please! Wlad was past it, no question and your boy Fury ducked the rematch. I can only imagine what your sack sucking ass would say if Wilder did that with a 40 YO passed prime champ. Fury was so shook, he faked mental issues to get out of the rematch! LOL
Fury unseated a great champ. He was holding the belt, so no, he was no "passed it." That is something an idiot would say, especially since he came back over a year later to nearly beat Joshua. Wilder never beat anyone. He wouldn't do it to a 39 year old champ--he would'nt do it to any champ. If he could have, he would have. You are a brainwashed idiot who believes in the great fairytale that is Deontay Wilder. By the way, Wilder's great claim to fame was a 38 year old blood-pressure patient with an unimpressive record, so stop being an idiot. 39 year old Wlad shits all over 38 year old Oritz, or 30 year old Wilder. Wlad is just on another level than the bums you dream of.
Exactly what is wrong with those few who keep writing vicious personal insults-"barin damaged", idiots", "sack sucking ass"... This is mean, immature, deters good posters who are above such at best adolecent, Ego-driven attacks-& brings down the whole forum. If you would not say it in person-because you may then need to see how hard your victim punches, lol-then do not do it here. Content: no argument about how hard anyone punches is valid if it discusses the merely discusses the results of fights. The *words* about how hard someone punches MEAN something. They indicate how much force someone throws when they connect. Not how often they land, how flush, how effectively, their combinations, finishing or overall skills. So the hardest puncher ever not only might be someone who never was able to go far in boxing... But maybe he rarely even lands, at least flush. Thus every single argument about Wilder & his level of opponents & his skills at best establish how *good* he is: not how much force his blows have. Though I agree that his skills are limited. But let us not waste endless time through using inaccurate or imprecise terms. How hard do I think he hits? His right hand is likely up there with the hardest hitters-but not #1. He also weakens guys with some illegal blows, & the element of surprise due to his speed & ranbge adds to the effect-when he lands. He does need the huge wind up to hit really hard-but that is his technique. It is silly to think that the better boxer, Fury, hits nearly as hard for a single shot. Though when sitting down on his punches, he is at least an average modern HW in terms of power. Not very hard for his size, sure that is true. Which is plenty to rock Wilder or most any top HW if landing consistentkly & effectively.
If you don't like the tone, then maybe you should go to another thread. No one is looking for a schoolmarm on a boxing website. Really. So we can't discuss results, but you make a blanket statesmen about Fury without discussing ANY evidence at all. Wow. Just wow. Hey, fair enough. In Stiverne I, Wilder landed 107 power punches, including his vaunted right flush a number of times. No result. Stiverne had some kind of obesity disease for the fight, by the way. Here is highlight real of Wilder teeing off on Duhauaps, including one very flush flush right. Couldn't put him down. This content is protected Here is Wilder VS Washington, in which Wilder scores a legit knockdown, Washington pops back up, they start exchanging, Wilder hits him clean, misses with several more, and and the ref stops it for no reason with Washington standing and able to continue. This shows not only that Wilder is not that great with one punch, but shows how officiating has helped with this fraud. This content is protected And of course there is the Fury fights. You can go through the fights yourself and find the instances of him hitting guys flush. The point is, he really has to commit to do it in a way that will always see him beaten by a good fighter. It is absolutely not that kind of Formanaesque grade-A power where every punch hurts, every jab is dangerous, and you might go at any time.
He wasn't in his prime, couldn't pull the trigger, looked pitiful, 40 years old. Only an idiot would look at that fight a claim Wlad was in his prime or even close to it. Yeah he was a champ! So was Charles Martin. Having a belt in a weak division, during an even weaker era doesn't make you anything special, which Wlad wasn't. In his prime, he would have given Fury all kinds of hell. Only a sack sucking fan boy trying to prop up his hero would say diffrent. Get to sucking boy and responde back like the sack sucker I know you are!
