Fury is now looking like a candidate for GOAT.

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  1. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Who in the world did Wilder beat to make himself the biggest puncher in history?

    Also, as much as I like Wlad he isn’t the most dominant heavyweight in history. He was the unified champ for 11 years, which of course is very impressive, but he dominated the division with Vitali. Jack Johnson, Joe Louis, Ali, Marciano, Holmes, and Tyson ruled their division without a tag team partner.
     
  2. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    You know how weak that argument is? You just agreed that they were weak win but try to spin it as "look how he won it". Lamont Brewster win over Wlad was far more impressive. and Wilder. His best wins are against Ortiz. I'm no Wilder hatter either but he is a one dimensional power puncher.
     
  3. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Come on, for him to be considered in that category, he'd need to beat Joshua, Usyk then possibly rematches with both and then if another two elite heavyweights emerge in 4-5 years, who are on Joshua's, he'd have to beat them too, and only then you'd have a case placing Fury as the best heavy ever + beating top conteders like Whyte woud help his cause.
     
  4. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I don't even rate the win(s) over Bootleg D that highly

    Fury just gets a lot of extra credit

    First fight: For beating D on his soil when he was an inactive drug-ravaged muscle atrophied shell of himself after not having fought anyone with a pulse in three years.

    Rematch: For being man enough to travel back over to the scene of the crime where he'd been robbed and exacting his revenge by committing a war crime so heinous against D that it violated the Geneva Conventions a thousand times over.

    If D someone how manages to get lucky in the third fight in the trilogy, and I firmly believe all manner of skullduggery is being planned and even taking place as we speak to ensure that happens, he gets zero credit because he wasn't even man enough to fight Fury on his soil once on a deck that wasn't stacked in his favour.
     
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  5. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    I will say maybe he could crack top ten. But idk about goat
     
  6. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    vs. Wladimir; won a close fight in the worst ever fight where the HW title changed hands against the old man and did everything to avoid a rematch including faking a broken ankle (sorry Fury fans, he admitted to that one)

    vs. Wilder; it is a big win no question but relative to history this is not among the top 100, 200 victories at HW of all time

    He literally has only two wins over top 10 HW's, albeit great ones, only two (am I forgetting something?). But much rides on the zero losses. Combined with being lineal champ, that does propel him into the conversation of relevant HW's in history. Just closer to the category of Jess Williard than GOAT.
     
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  7. bandeedo

    bandeedo VIP Member Full Member

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    Why would he? You’re the one trying to cram both his nuts into your mouth, he means jack in my world.
     
  8. GeorgeDeservesAMedal

    GeorgeDeservesAMedal Member banned Full Member

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    Stay nice and bitter cum dump :) :) Lol
     
  9. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    Out of interest, who do you think are Fury's 3rd and 4th best wins?
     
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  10. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 The Empire Struck Back Full Member

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    It's annoying we have threads like this that make it look like people are attacking Fury when what they're actually doing is trying to look at him in a more reasonable manner. I've read people saying goofy things like he embarrassed Wlad. How did he do that exactly? By nicking tight rounds in a close fight few will ever want to rewatch?

    On topic his 3rd and 4th best wins are IMO Chisora and Wallin. I can't pick Cunningham who had lost 3 of his last 4 going into the Fury fight and I can't pick Hammer due to the failed drugs test. That leaves Wallin who may well prove himself to be a solid contender having done well in the fight against Fury.
     
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  11. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    @G Man would you agree Fury's 3rd and 4th best wins are Chisora and Wallin?
     
  12. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    I was gonna say Hammer and Del Boy, but you make a valid point....
     
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  13. Chuck Norris

    Chuck Norris Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fury is good and all. He managed to outbox the master boxer and stopped the big puncher yeah fine, but compared to Joshua he is dog ****. Joshua is 10 times better than Fury and hell, better than any other heavy in history! Name me one heavyweight who managed to split the Jordan river and make the Sun stand freaking still!!!!
     
  14. miniq

    miniq Tyson Fury Undisputed HW Champion 18/5/24 Full Member

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    Joshua?

    Isn't he that guy who went life and death with Wlad?

    And lost to a 5'11" fatman?
     
  15. bandeedo

    bandeedo VIP Member Full Member

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    Lmao! The little **** stain crying about his man crush telling others about bitterness. You unaware ass clown, lol.