Manny Pacquiao's Top 7 Wins are greater than any Floyd's win

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  1. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    Bennett got that bag, son. And Floyd used illegal IV fluids.

    :deal:
     
  2. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Fluids that were tested and contained nothing. Pbf failed no test. You have no proof he did just speculation. Whats not speculation is 118-110.:deal:
     
  3. Loudon

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    Thomas Hauser is a great journalist and author.

    Floyd’s fans will accuse anybody of being a hater or having an agenda if they question him in any way.

    They are forced to go into a defensive manner where they have to come out and attack.

    The articles don’t just specifically focus on Floyd.

    They look at the sport in general.

    Thomas Hauser can have an opinion like anybody else can. But his opinion on the matter and the facts that he documented are two entirely different things.

    You don’t have to agree with him. But his documented facts haven’t been disputed.

    They are there for all to see.

    None of Floyd’s fans can argue against them.
     
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  4. Loudon

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    Boom!

    There you have it.

    Old Bob only had 2 options.

    He went with the easy one.

    It’s now firmly under the carpet.
     
  5. Loudon

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    How can it not mean anything?

    Get real.

    There was no investigation.

    He was informed what had happened and he decided to sweep it under the carpet for the sake of the state.
     
  6. Loudon

    Loudon VIP Member Full Member

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    Why you keep saying the same silly things?

    If you actually bothered to read the articles, you’d realise just how stupid your statements are.
     
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  7. this_and_that

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    Maidana was also a million times more skilled, making FMJ's win over him far more impressive.
    But question is, did anybody in their right mind, not trolling whatsoever, really had Horn winning over Pac?
    Did anybody had Bradley winning over Pac too?

    I really think it's unfair to call out both these fights as a "loss" for Pac and consequently, use it as a leverage against him.
    I mean, he didn't really "lose' did he now? Have we all forgotten how messed up Horn's face looked after his fight with Pac that should've been called a TKO in favor of Pac and nobody would've complained?
     
  8. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    @Loudon

    Don't bother with the idiot. Dude seriously said that Floyd missing the JMM catchweight, paying Maidana to wear different gloves, and using illegal IVs did not yield any competitive advantages and called those fights fair and square.
     
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  9. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    Pac beating Floyd's left overs of cotton hatton and dlh while they were all drained is not impressive at all. Bradley also was never anything special wouldn't put that over a win against Diego corrales or Juan Manuel marquez or even Floyd's win over hatton. Barrera great win but does anyone honestly believe barerra would have troubled Floyd like he did pac? Floyd's win over pac who went on to beat Thurman pretty much trumpts anything pac has done anyways
     
  10. Stuart_boxer

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    The Hauser article stated that Floyd's A sample had tested positive 3 times, he had a suspicious testosterone : Epitestosterone ratio on mulitple occasions and that he had a backdated therapeutic use exemption for use of IV's for the Pacquiao fight (whilst Pacquiao was denied a TUE for the mild painkiller Toradol that was filed before the fight).

    Couldn't immediately find the original article and I think it's behind a paywall but I did find this interview about the article;

    https://www.ringtv.com/398871-thomas-hauser-explains-usadamayweather-article/

    Also in the world of professional cycling IV's are generally used for re-infusing your own blood to give you a cardio advantage. Lance Armstrong was doing it back in the early 2000's when they didn't have a test for it, eventually a test came out that could detect microscopic amounts of the plastic material or whatever it is exactly but in short they can tell you've had a transfusion because of the transfusion materials not any features of the blood.

    So in short the IV could have potentially been used as a smokescreen for blood doping because it would have explained why he would have tested positive for a transfusion. The saline wouldn't have done much because Floyd isn't a big weight cutter.

    I'm not saying there's any concrete proof either Pacquiao or Mayweather have used PED's but you would have to be naive not to entertain the possibility. There's also every bit as much smoke around Floyd on this issue as there is around Pacquiao.
     
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  11. The Real Lance

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    :lol: WHY do you fools keep acting like people are questioning the CONTENTS of the IV. Everyone knows it was saline fool. Yet ALL THE TIME, you floydiots constantly post that the saline had NO ILLEGAL SUBSTANCES. :lol: If you really don't know why people had an issue, you need to step away, log off, and run to the store to buy a freakin clue!
     
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  12. Pimp C

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    You didn't even pick pac to beat pbf despite being the biggest pac stan on the internet Lmfao! Even you know pbf is better.
     
  13. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    Wrong. You're thinking about someone else. I'd pick a healthy Pac to beat a clean Floyd. In 2009, 2015, and if they rematch. We know Floyd don't want that smoke.
     
  14. Pimp C

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    Shut the hell up alt. I know who im dealing with here. Youve had 100 alts since that fight. You didn't pick pac to win.

    The fight didnt warrant a rematch it wasn't close. Tell pac to rematch horn since he still has those problems.
     
  15. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    Dumb ass moron. I NEVER picked Floyd to beat Pac. EVER. And I stand by that. Floyd's been scouting Pac for multiple fights and he's called out Pac for a rematch TWICE now. He's just on the fence because he knows that he can't use PEDs again. If it was so easy, he'd take the fight and make that bank. He knows he dodged a bullet w/ Pac's injury.

    :deal: