Can Luis Ortiz defeat Andy Ruiz ?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Dance84, Apr 30, 2020.



Who wins

  1. Ortiz By Knockout

  2. Ortiz By Decision

  3. Ruiz By Knockout

  4. Ruiz By Decision

  5. Draw

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  1. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    Can he ? . we know ortiz is old and is only getting older . we've seen ruiz lose to AJ and Parker by being outboxed by the taller man . ruiz holds the advantages on the inside with his blazing combos and handspeed . ortiz holds the advantage on the outside with his jab footwork and counters . ortiz being the taller man more reach can use that to his advantage on the outside and outbox ruiz for the rounds to come. I dont think ortiz should risks trying to knockout the younger fresher and stronger man. I can see ruiz stopping ortiz however i cant see ortiz stopping ruiz at all. What do you all think ? Ortiz has a chance by outboxing ruiz and avoiding an inside fight thats assuming ortiz legs dont give out due to age ?parker and joshua outboxed ruiz . can ortiz do the same ? Or would ruiz stop ortiz .
     
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  2. zeratul

    zeratul Active Member Full Member

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    This would be a good fight. I'd pick a motivated Ruiz to win at this point because Ortiz doesn't have good stamina and he's ancient. Ruiz on the other hand has a pretty good defense and punch resistance, so I don't believe Ortiz would be able to knock him out or even hurt him, so the fight would definitely continue into late rounds.
     
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  3. chico g

    chico g What are you staring at Mr Trump?! hahaha! Full Member

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    I'm of the opinion that grandpa Ortiz could outbox Parker, Whyte and Ruiz. Deontay was just a step too far.
     
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  4. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No, Ortiz doesn't have stamina and chin to win. Ruiz by KO late.
     
  5. Tankatron

    Tankatron Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :eaea:
     
  6. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ortiz is done at the top level. His legs are all used up.

    Going into the Wilder rematch when I seen Ortiz trying to move around his balance was shot, which is why I didn’t even bother watching the rematch. Big Andy would easily crush Ortiz now. Parker would most likely go the distance with Ortiz, since I can see him letting Ortiz go the distance out of pity.
     
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  7. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    We never got to see Ortiz against ANYONE worth a damn other than Wilder. That win's worth for Wilder remains a mystery until we see Ortiz against a decent challenge other than merely above average Jennings.

    Now that Ortiz is 50, that's not likely to happen.
     
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  8. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    Who would you favor
     
  9. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Yes he can and will most likely do so by UD.
     
  10. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Ruiz can be a bit lethargic at times. So of he doesn't show up at his best Ortiz can definitely cruise to a decision like he was against Wilder. Ruiz also doesn't punch as hard as Wilder nor does he posses the range. It's a toss up at this point. Wouldn't confidently pick either.
     
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  11. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Based on their latest performances, Ortiz by decision.
     
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  12. ipitythefool

    ipitythefool Prediction ? Pain Full Member

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    The oldest ever title challenger (by several years) v the most obese ex champion (by several pounds). Interesting one.

    I think Ruiz has the skills and stamina to win a clear UD although grandpa will have his moments.
     
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  13. Tyson Fury Goat

    Tyson Fury Goat Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    a motivated Ruiz knocks out ortiz
     
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  14. Spongebob south paw pants

    Spongebob south paw pants Active Member Full Member

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    Would of probably been a different story if Ortiz was 6 years younger. Even pushing 40 almost stopped him in there first fight. As for Parker Whyte and even Ruiz would be good fights but Wilder wouldn't want his legacy damaged any more than it is already..

    How long has he ducked Whyte now just be 4 years says it all
     
  15. Spongebob south paw pants

    Spongebob south paw pants Active Member Full Member

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    As for Ruiz Ortiz probably depends who's gasses out first. And that's a hard call ones old ones 90% blob but with fast hands in his range