the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

Some of it was actually pretty hard to score, but still Sánchez was clearly doing better if that makes sense.

 

George i might be mistaken but werent you asking someone on the general about if he knew anymore good Jorge Paez fights.

I couldnt reply at the time but if you havent seen it yet then try and watch Paez fight with Tracy Spann its a good one.

 

I was, I've since seen a couple but not that one. So cheers.

 

Sumbu Kalambay v Mike McCallum 1

A high quality technical battle that heated up nicely over the second half. Not out and out exciting but a nice chin stroker of a fight.

I agreed with two of the judges in that I saw this as a close win for Kalambay. The first half was nip and tuck before Kalambay moved into a clear lead on my card. McCallum came back well though but Kalambay managed to win rounds at just the right time to stay ahead.

I felt Kalambay was overly reliant on his jab and making McCallum miss in the first half but started to let more combos go after that. McCallum threw more varied combinations but definitely missed more and I felt Kalambay's jab was the sharper of the two fighters.

Here's my RBR with comments:
1 10-9 (close opener. Excellent head movement from Kalambay consistently making McCallum miss with his jab and then countering with his own)
2 9-10 (couple of good hard rights give McCallum this one)
3 10-10
4 10-9 (clear Kalambay round. He let his hands go a little more that round)
5 9-10 (super close round but I gave it to McCallum for connecting with the bigger shots overall)
6 10-9 (another close one, felt Kalambay just edged it)
7 10-9 (good round for Kalambay - slick movement and defense plus a whip sharp jab with some combos thrown in)
8 10-9 (Kalambay looking good in there, opening up a clearer lead on McCallum)
9 9-10 (good round with some decent leather getting thrown around. Two very smart fighters - enjoying this)
10 9-10 (another close one with some good exchanges in the second half of the round. Mike edged it again. Close fight on my card)
11 10-9 (good shots landed by Kalambay takes the round)
12 9-10 (excellent last round action to end a high quality technical battle)

Kalamabay 115-114 McCallum

Kalambay wins 6 rounds to 5 with 1 even.

 

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1991-06-14, Non-Title Fight

Scores: 96-93 | 95-93 | 94-94
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Rd. JP : TS
1. 10 : 9
2. 9 : 10
3. 8 : 10
4. 10 : 9
5. 10 : 9 (47-47)
6. 9 : 8*
7. 9 : 10
8. 10 : 9
9. 10 : 10
10. 10 : 9 (

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*I'm giving him the 9-8 since he beat the **** outta him and actually put him on the floor with a punch.
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'He styles his hair with masking tape'... thanks for that information, mate. Glad I asked.

The southpaw Spann was a dynamite puncher from what I've seen and heard. Beautiful right hook which got his KD. In the 6th, Jorge had a point took off after holding Spann's face, but he got a KD whilst doing it.

Paez was a damn good showman. His taunts, dancing and just mad antics were really funny, not to mention he didn't mind switching it up foolishly in the ring. Did he need to randomly go southpaw? No, but he did! You look at his hair and the rainbow shorts, watch him come out throwing lots and dancing like a mental case and it immediately starts to make sense when you learn he used to be in the circus.

This fight was real good. Cheers, Hank.Some of the best fantasies ever are **** like Paez vs Kelley, Little Red, Winstone, Salido ect.

 

Larry Holmes (c) TKO 12 James “Bonecrusher” Smith
Nov. 9, 1985
Riviera Hotel Outdoor Arena, Las Vegas
Holmes improves to 46-0. Smith, who earned his shot with his come-from-behind upset knockout of Frank Bruno, falls to 14-2.

1: Holmes 10-9 (that jab really is a thing of beauty)
2: Holmes 10-9
3: Holmes 10-9
4: Holmes 10-9
5: Smith 10-9 (James gets aggressive and decides to walk through Holmes’ offense, lands a few hard right hands and some good body work too)
6: Holmes 10-9 (close)
7: Holmes 10-9 (Larry cut from headbutt and does some of the best body work of his career in the last minute of the round)
8: Smith 10-9 (close, they go toe to toe for much of the round and Bonecrusher hurts Larry with a right, followed by some great exchanges)
9: Holmes 10-9 (puts on a clinic with that jab)
10. Holmes 10-9
11. Holmes 10-9 (really opens up and opens up a cut over Smith’s left eye like a can of tomatoes — it was there earlier but late in the round doctor has to take a look it’s so bad)

Larry pummels Smith a good bit in this round as the blood continues to flow. Ringside doctor stops it at 2:10 of the 12th after ref asks him to look at it again.

Final scorecard: Holmes 108-101

Good action fight while also being pretty tactical. Good showing from a still-green Bonecrusher but Larry is too much.

 

KHAN MAIDANA


10-8 KHAN KD ROUND

20-17 KHAN

29-27 MAIDANA

39-36 KHAN

48-45 MAIDANA -1 POINT DEDUCTION (9-9 ROUND)

57-55 MAIDANA

66-65 MAIDANA

76-74 KHAN

86-83 KHAN

94-93 MAIDANA 10-8 ROUND - MAIDANA BEATING

103-103 MAIDANA

113-112 KHAN


KHAN 113-112

Superb scrap between 2 of my favourite modern era fighter. Khan knockdown in the 1st was brilliant, Maidana showed great heart to get up from the body punch and then take it on the chin later in the fight - literally.
The fight ebbs and flows throughout with Maidana edging it from the 3rd-10th round, going into the 10th you feel Maidana feel very confident and rightfully so after the beat he gives Khan in the 10th, most would have gone down or succumb to the pressure.
Overall, a very competitive fight with plenty of swing rounds, however, Khan’s combinations and speed just helped him edge the fight.

 

Mike McCallum v Sumbu Kalambay 2

Plenty of close rounds in this one again but I felt Kalambay lost his way in the middle rounds where McCallum got on top and banked enough rounds to take the decision overall.

I think Kalambay lacked some of the sharpness he had in the first fight. Maybe the 3 years that had passed since the first fight had the bigger impact on him than McCallum.

Another good fight but these two were so well matched that I can't say one fighter was clearly superior to the other.

1 10-10
2 10-9
3 9-10
4 10-9 (close)
5 9-10 (close)
6 10-9 (good round from McCallum)
7 10-9 (McCallum starting to get on top)
8 9-10 (close)
9 10-9 (Kalambay not as sharp as in the first fight. McCallum the busier)
10 10-9
11 9-10 (Kalambay's best round for a while)
12 9-10 (close)

McCallum 115-114 Kalambay

 

Roberto Duran W12 (split) Iran Barkley (c) for the WBC middleweight championship
Feb. 24, 1989
Convention Center, Atlantic City, NJ

1: Duran 10-9 (Barkley’s round until Duran hurts him badly with right in last 30 seconds)
2: Barkley 10-9 (great body work by Iran)
3: Even, 10-10
4: Duran 10-9 (fantastic exchanges in the third and fourth)
5: Barkley 10-9 (Iran works his jab and Duran’s body)
6: Barkley 10-9 (pace slows)
7: Duran 10-9 (furious resurgence by Duran)
8: Barkley 10-9 (turns Duran sideways with left hook, but Duran fights on even enough terms the rest of the way to keep it from being a two-point round)
9: Duran 10-9 (pace slows and Duran outboxes Barkley to get back into it)
10: Duran 10-9 (boxes and potshots Iran)
11: Duran 10-9 (huge knockdown as he rakes Barkley over the coals)
12: Barkley 10-9 (outhustles Duran, great heart)
Total: Duran 116-113

Official scores: 116-113 Barkley, 118-112 Duran (out of line), 116-112 Duran

Duran improves to 85-7 at age 37 with a timeless performance, Barkley falls to 25-5 in maybe his best overall performance despite it being a losing effort.

You don’t find a much better fight to ever watch.

 

Rubin Carter SD 10 Georgie Benton

An interesting bout, if not great. It was an artful display of infighting and displayed what each was best at. They were both true to themselves. Here's how I had it....

Benton: 3, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10
Carter: 1, 2, 4, 9

The thing with Carter is that he doesn't use a jab. Like, ever. He wades forward and uncorks power punches. I've seen that tendency in him before, and he suffers for it. In this fight he missed a lot of shots as one will against the cagey and defensively sound Benton, and instead of range-finding and setting up things with his own jab, he tried to get close and place his shots. Benton, for his part, showed remarkable defense i side, continually slipping Carter's heavier shots. It took him a while to warm to the idea that he had to throw his own punches, but that came later.

The two judges were obviously impressed with Carter's menace and power shots, though I gave a slight edge to the defensive brilliance and countering of Benton. To me, he succeeded in taking Carter out of his comfort zone more than Carter took him out of his. It just came down to that.

Excellent study on infighting while showing defensive techniques.

 

Kelly Pavlik v Jermain Taylor 1

Continuing the middleweight theme...

Somehow let this one pass me by so decided to watch while on leave today looking after the kids. Only 7 rounds and it took me all day. This quarantine bull**** is getting on my nerves.

Anyway, excellent fight from the start with Pavlik showing tremendous heart in the second to make it through the round and then Taylor completely falling to pieces out of the blue from a Pavlik assault when I had him slightly ahead.

Shame it didn't go longer but Pavlik deserves great credit for turning it round.

1 10-9
2 8-10 (big round for Taylor)
3 10-9
4 10-9
5 9-10
6 9-10
(56-57)
7 Pavlik TKO Taylor

 

Prince Charles Williams v Merqui Sosa 1

No point in scoring this one. A bizarre ending to a brutal fight that had me questioning what it is I like about watching boxing. I'm sure there are plenty of people who would enjoy this but this fight was too hard for me to find it genuinely enjoyable. It felt like watching a fight that ended with a terrible injury or a death to one of the fighters.

From the opening bell, it was bombs away with Sosa the aggressor. Sosa's face reminded me of Bruce Willis's vest in Die Hard - if you want to know what point in the action you're up to, just check the state of it. And he was the one who was winning the fight. Both fighters were landing over 50% of their punches and they were virtually all power shots thrown with the intention to hurt.

The ending poses a few questions:
As brutal as this was, should this fight have been stopped? And who should have stopped it? When two fighters have almost no regard for defense as they did in this fight, what is the obligation of the corner men, the referee and the doctor in this situation? Both fighters could have continued but would that have risk permanent injury or maybe even death?

I don't think there's a clear answer to these questions based on what I watched but the technical draw decision seems unsatisfactory. At the point of the stoppage, Sosa was ahead on all three cards and by clear margins too. It seemed harsh on him to not be given the victory. At the same time, Williams' corner wasn't pulling him out and there was no injury that had been caused by anything other than a punch, so there was no way of going to the cards as would be the case if a fight was stopped due to an accidental injury.

I have some recollection of this fight going down as a TKO defeat for both fighters at one point but the ruling from Larry Hazzard was clearly a technical draw and that's what shows up on boxrec as well.

 

Giovanni Segura v Ivan Calderon 1

Tremendous performance from Segura who simply overwhelmed Calderon. Calderon seemed in trouble from the start but did his best to fight a rearguard action against the aggression of Segura.

Calderon had to just start throwing after a while because he was taking a pummeling and it paid off somewhat with a strong 6th round but by the 7th he was basically on the run and looked on borrowed time.

Father time caught up with Calderon in this one. Or maybe he just met a style he couldn't deal with. Probably a bit of both.

110-9 (aggressive start from Segura)
2 10-9
3 10-9 (closer. Segura overreaching a bit in his eagerness to land but still winning)
4 10-9
5 10-9 (Calderon getting outgunned here)
6 9-10 (Calderon trying to fight fire with fire and lands some big shots to keep himself competitive)
7 9-10 (close. Calderon kept it close by moving and holding when Segura came at him)
(68-65)
8 Segura KO Calderon (vicious body attack and a spent Calderon waits out the full count on one knee)

 

Sal, although you and I have differing scores on this fight, many of these rounds are tight. I am reprinting my original analysis on this fight because I wanted my original suspicions about this fight intact. Maybe I'm just a conspiracy theorist, but this is what I wrote some two years ago on this fight.

Here's another fight from this era, the 1963 Hurricane Carter-Georgie Benton fight. Good fight, but this was frustrating as hell to watch for me. When Benton stays on the outside he is very pretty to watch. He has a beautiful jab and sharp-shoots with the right. The fight was his to lose and he did. He spends 90% of the fight on the inside fighting Carter's fight. And it appears it is of his own volition rather than Carter being that forceful. Here we go. New York's rounds basis.

Round 1: Carter
Round 2: Carter
Round 3: Even
Round 4: Carter
Round 5: Benton
Round 6: Carter
Round 7: Benton
Round 8: Even
Round 9: Carter
Round 10: Carter

Total 6-2-2 Carter

Round 10 was the best. Carter started so strong, but in the middle of the round Benton takes over and appears to hurt Carter, but then Carter finishes with a rush to take the round. Again, strange that Benton would fight Carter's fight, especially when Benton was known as a cutie. Rumors were rife at the time that Teddy Brenner had Holly Mims go in the tank against Carter. I'm wondering......