Tyson Fury vs Larry Holmes

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Devon, Apr 30, 2020.



  1. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah I didn't get that either. I'd favor Holmes comfortably over Klitschko and Wilder, particularly the versions Fury fought.
     
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  2. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Well here are the options:
    1. If you pick Fury you’re crazy

    2. if you pick Holmes you’re overly nostalgic

    I think I’ll take the safe road. The only wrong answer here is one which emphatically favors one man over the other. We can sit here arguing until next year about how each man struggled against “ lesser fighters”. The fact is, Holmes was a battle tested warrior and technician while Fury is a skilled giant with freakish physical advantages. I can’t see either man scoring a stoppage barring a bad cut or a fluke injury.. Larry didn’t have the power or punching ability to stop a guy like Fury and Holmes was too durable and savvy to get halted by the Gypsy King. This would be a battle of jabs, wit, and movement.. I can even see this turning into a chess match...
     
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  3. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

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    Fury did beat Wilder though.
     
  4. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No worries, we all have different opinions and I have been wrong and right before. For me I think an over 40 Klitschko was still an excellent fighter, perhaps a better fighter than the Vlad that lost to Brewster or Sanders - not so much physically but older Vlad was still in excellent condition and always maintained great conditioning and gained experience and self knowledge and self confidence.

    I have seen Shavers live fights against Ellis and Jerry Quarry and Ali and while he was an excellent puncher he had many flaws as a fighter.

    Wilder has shown excellent power and good finishing skills, I think he had some pretty good KOs - Shavers let many off the hook including Holmes, Cobb, Mercado, Stalling, Rondon, Lyle, Young, among others

    I think Holmes 2 best wins over fighter with more than 14 fights were Cooney- Shavers and a 19-8 Mike Weaver (who improved after the Holmes fight gaining confidence)

    IMO Wilder, Wlad and Fury were all better than Holmes toughest opponents - Wlad and Wilder being the most dangerous but Fury being at least as mentally strong as Holmes

    Holmes got up against Shavers, Snipes and came back from being badly hurt in a few fights but the opponents were not in the class of the Wilder, Klitschko, Fury

    Age is a factor but not so much in the case of Vlad, he gave Joshua a good battle and still had a powerful right hand

    Holmes was not at his best vs Tyson but not so bad either and he got KO'd - IMO it was a matter of styles _ I think Wilders power may be the tipping point - Vlad also

    Fury fight would be more spirited but Fury can also box, fight and think and I think these 3 are better than anyone Holmes beat.
     
  5. joebeadg

    joebeadg Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I really like fury, and its hard for us older guys to comprehend the size difference of these guys boxing now as compared with our guys. But Larrry is the ****. He would find a way. He might be behind for awhile but I think he would need to get inside constantly, which wasn't his game. but he did know how to adjust to win. But thinking back, didn't zanon outbox him for awhile? Fury is like a giant zanon with more power. and more skillset too I think. But I'd still go with Larry
     
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  6. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Fury by split decision. 212vs 270 pounds 6'3 vs 6'9 with no big speed difference. Holmes even with aka 47 could not ko Fury so with this huge size difference Holmes would have problems using his jab cause the difference of reach,and there is not a big difference in speed In their footworks.
    i can see Fury winning this by decision.
    We are not talking about a skinny mediocre 6'5 cooney here who could not fight like a tall guy.
     
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  7. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    By the way, the version of wladimir that Fury did beat could very well beat larry holmes
     
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  8. Knights107

    Knights107 Member Full Member

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    Too early to pick fury..

    More interisting is holmes vs wladimir
     
  9. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    And fury is clearly better than wladimir h2h
     
  10. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wow, all respect I don't know about that. To me Wlad at his best knocks the crap out of Fury.

    I think a lot of people here are going to change their tune about Fury (not necessarily you, Charlie) if Wilder beats him...and vice versa.

    Just my opinion, not meant facetiously.
     
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  11. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Despite of the age,Fury did beat a very good version of wladimir, and it was not close, Fury schooled him,i think that Fury would outbox any version of wladimir. Too smart,fast,tall,tough and durable
     
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  12. CroBox29

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    Of course Holmes is better, but that fight would certainly not be easy for Holmes. Holmes has never had such a big and massive opponent like Fury, Fury would be capable of parrying Holmes because he is technically good enough, great foot work for such a big man and a good jab...
     
  13. lloydturnip

    lloydturnip Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think Holmes finds a way to win after few difficult rnds he would have to go on the attack pushing fury back a smashing in right hands and hooks .Larry could do that if he had to and was affective .He would find a way to win.
     
  14. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Larry could be seriously resourceful when faced with someone awkward. Sometimes, in his most precarious moments (the Weaver fight) he'd MAKE a way for himself to win. Weaver was still looking like he had a more than good chance of winning when Holmes maneuvered him into the corner for THAT uppercut.
     
  15. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Great post
     
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