No you don’t but it’s a false hypothetical as a guy as seasoned as Floyd does not make those type of mistakes.
If you say so. This post was about Mayweather’s resume which is an outstanding one full stop. Live with it.
Love how you just gloss over Manny did not give blood because a sample was lost before. What does that have to do with anything? So he can't give blood for an entirely diffrent fight? Again, I'm not saying FM is innocent as to why the fight did not happen sooner, just saying he's not the only one to blame.
The "helpless and defenseless" Ortiz was told to confine boxing by the referee. You take the opponent's side every single time I see your posts and you never have anything positive to say about Floyd. You use the same old arguments from 5-8 years ago over and over. You are biased. It isn't just a handful of articles or team Floyd, Paulie Malignaggi was suspicious of Manny Pacquiao and his weird fear of needles but since he's the media darling everyone just laughed off the questions being raised and bought Pacquiao's excuses. This content is protected Pacquiao also magically stopped getting as many knockouts once he received more scrutiny. Funny how that worked out. He went from bashing cotto until his face looked like a leaky faucet, demolishing oscar and hatton, and even dropping iron chinned mosley to failing to even put a dent in a flat footed b level brawler brandon rios, failing to stop skinny 140 pound algieri or the mediocre jesse vargas, etc. It's hilarious that manny's fans accuse his opponents of being on stuff but he's had plenty of red flags in his career. Just like they bought his excuses about his calves being stiff for the Bradley fight, or bought the bogus story of healing his shoulder by swimming. Pacquiao can do nothing wrong apparently. The fight didn't happen because of pride. It was that simple. He didn't see himself as the B side when it was pretty clear Mayweather was the A side. Am I saying Mayweather is right for being a control freak and a diva? No, but if you want to win the Mayweather sweepstakes you have to play by the rules. Pacquiao didn't start giving into the demands until after he was humbled getting knocked out cold by Marquez and his options were drying up. His rival retired and nobody wanted to see him fight anymore of the same old Top Rank guys and he was getting old.
I haven’t glossed over it at all. Go and reread my post. Manny was willing to be randomly tested for blood and urine, but he wanted a cut off due to what had happened against Morales in 2005, where they lost his sample. His cut off request also included an immediate after fight blood and urine test. So out of a 10 week plus camp, he was willing to be randomly tested until the last few weeks, but with tests after the fight. That should have been sufficient.
It is well documented that Manny Pacquaio had suffered a torn rotator cuff. He later had surgery to repair the tear. It was Floyd who also claimed he had a torn rotator cuff against Castillo. He NEVER had surgery though I guess it was the consoling & caressing Ellerbe gave him cured Floyds tear huh ?/ ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cortez NEVER told Ortiz to "CONFINE" boxing let alone Box on as he should have done LOL He was busy looking over at Floyd's corner for more instructions
Gatti De La Hoya Pacquiao Canelo Cotto Mosely Marquez Thats 7 tied on hall of famers. Not many people have beaten that many hall of famers. Hatton, Castillo and Corrales are borderline. He has an upper end HOF resume
Look, I'm not saying Manny didn't do certain things or not. I am just responding to you saying that FM is solely to blame for the fight between him and Manny not happening sooner. I gave legitimate info, that refutes your claim. And here you are still arguing. Manny's trainer and manager, said one of the reasons the fight did not happen sooner is because Manny did not want blood drawn. Why he didn't want blood drawn is irrelevant. If he had blood drawn at the time, the fight would have happened sooner. If FM had given in and not request blood to be drawn, the fight would have happened sooner. Again, I'm not saying one guys is to blame, but both are.
Glass City Cobra, Paulie has been suspicious for years. But the trouble with Paulie, is that he’s seen by many people as having an agenda against Manny. He loses all credibility with how he conducts himself. He doesn’t focus on the problem in general or on any other fighters in the sport. So he’s not in any way objective, where he documents facts in the way that a guy like Thomas Hauser has. He mainly just makes slurs. And to my knowledge, he’s never even queried Floyd’s IV debacle or the organisations involved. Manny had a legitimate reason for his cut off request and there’s never been any evidence of any wrongdoing. Floyd having an illegal IV in secret with an illegal amount is far more damning. Especially as his excuse isn’t in any way believable. So if Paulie’s not even commented on that, there’s no point in even listening to his opinion on Manny. It’s a complete waste of time. You’re either interested in the impact of PEDS in the sport or you’re not. Focusing solely on one opponent and not conducting any other research paints a clear picture of his persona. When did Manny magically stop knocking opponents out? He didn’t knock out all of his opponents beforehand. It depends how he matched up with them stylistically. He didn’t knock out Barrera, Morales or Larios years earlier. He didn’t knock Marquez out in 4 fights. He got a TKO over Cotto in the final round. Oscar was absolutely finished and had to retire on his stool. He was never going to knock Bradley out. Rios was after Marquez had iced him and he’d been out for a year. So where’s the evidence you’re looking at? Fights against Vargas and Horn were tactical fights when he was pushing 40 with shoulder trouble. He stopped Matthysse though, after he’d had shoulder surgery. The fight didn’t happen earlier because Floyd didn’t want it to. Manny publicly agreed to all of Floyd’s demands BEFORE Marquez had knocked him out. So ask yourself why Floyd didn’t rush to get the fight signed as soon as Manny had made that statement. Floyd should have jumped on that. The fact that he didn’t speaks volumes.
You haven’t given me anything that refutes my claim. You have told me that Manny wouldn’t give blood. That’s not what happened. The reason why he didn’t want blood drawn isn’t at all irrelevant. It’s extremely relevant. If he didn’t have a legitimate reason, it would have looked suspicious. The incident with Morales is the sole reason why he wanted the cut off. No, the fight wouldn’t have happened sooner. Why? Because again, even when Manny had publicly AGREED TO EVERYTHING through the media, it still didn’t happen until a long time afterwards. So that is all the proof you need that it wasn’t solely about the testing. Otherwise, Leonard Ellerbe would have tried to have made the fight the morning after Manny had made that public statement. The fact that he didn’t speaks volumes. Floyd didn’t want the fight until Marquez had iced him. Go and follow the timeline and see for yourself.
