Serge I enjoyed your post especially your presentation of evidence like a lawyer. However I need to raise a preliminary objection to toss this case out on form as it lacks merit. This is because Canelo vs GGG 1 was scored a draw not a victory for either fighter. As the judges of the Supreme Court will rule as GGG did not in fact beat Canelo in the first fight it cannot be said he beat a better version than the version Floyd fought so on that basis Suit will be thrown out. In the Legal opinion to be rendered the judges may as well comment on a few substantive points raised : 1. When Team Canelo or Clenelo as you called him were agitating for the fight as of a few years earlier they even claimed they would fight Money May at Welterweight. That is how desperate they were so Mayweather , Uncle Al Haymon pulled what are known as A side power moves by calling Team Canelo’s bluff to have the fight at 152 pounds. Evidence of this is further substantiated by the testimony of Leonard Ellerbe Esq. to the effect “ when you have idiot manager who puts you in this position”. In other words this suit would likely have failed on its merit had it been properly put forward but nevertheless it’s is fatally flawed, DOA as in dead on arrival. 2. As per the testimony of Boxer trainer Gogue the laziness and poor work ethic argument is fatally flawed as Canelo actually gassed in the fight against GGG not in the fight against Mayweather! The decision cannot be appealed.
We know its lockdown etc , but over the past few weeks you've definitely taken the title of ****ing idiot of the forum from iSAL...big achievement to55er
I don't think I've ever seen such delusion. First to act like Mayweather schooled Canelo then to claim that GGG beat Canelo. This would be like creating a topic called "Who beat the better version of Barrera : Prince Naseem or Morales".
Are you on crack??? Um I hate to break it to you buddy but: Floyd Mayweather did school & embarrass Canelo GGG did clearly & decisively beat Canelo in the 1st Surely you cannot seriously think that Mayweather did not school Canelo? I don't mind so much if a fan girl was to say that 'Canelo won the first fight' even though he did'nt. Ah well, it's what you believe so there is probably no chance of changing you mind. So be it!
Do you even know what a schooling is? Neither match was a schooling start to finish, but if anyone was putting on a schooling it was Canelo. For a match to be a schooling, you have to look at what happened as the match started, in the early rounds. Anotherwords, who was the ring general, who was the fighter in control using expert techniques on his opponent and having success with the execution of that. Vs Mayweather it was quite clear that Canelo was the ring general. He was schooling Mayweather early and often with feint after feint after feint. Mayweather was literally getting feinted out of his shoes. We've never seen Mayweather bite on so many feints like that. He was obviously terrified of Canelo and reacting to Canelo feints like never seen before. It was unreal. What was it that Mayweather was doing to Canelo in those early rounds to "school" him? Canelo was fighting an even match with Mayweather until about the 7th round. It took Mayweather about 5 or 6 rounds to figure Canelo out. Mayweather had to make big adjustments to take control of that match. He said so himself. However even after his big 7th round, Canelo came back in the first half of the 8th round, then it became a see-saw battle over the remaining rounds. Canelo landed a 12 punch combo in the 10th including 2 massive right hands, you don't get rocked like that while schooling someone. Floyd was getting booed for stalling in the 12th round. You don't get booed by the crowd for stalling while putting on a schooling. Floyd won a close match a match that he was getting schooled early on with feints and was struggling a lot more than he usually does vs Canelo. Floyd made adjustments and did what he had to do to get the decision, but it was in no way shape or form even close to a schooling. If anyone schooled anyone, it was Canelo schooling Floyd with feints. And to be clear I'm not arguing Canelo schooled him, far from it, I'm just pointing out that early on in the area of feinting, Canelo was schooling him in that department by getting Floyd to feint over and over again. And given how close those early rounds were, there's an argument that the feints were working enough for him to edge rounds 2-4. As for Canelo GGG 1, again if anyone schooled anybody it was clearly Canelo schooling GGG as he was putting on a clinic early on. And if you can't see that he was schooling GGG with how he fought him, fighting off the backfoot, making GGG chase him, setting GGG up for counters, then you either need a pair of glasses or you simply don't understand what a schooling is in boxing. But after success in the early rounds, Canelo got a little too comfortable at times, like when he went to the ropes not only in the 4th but then again in the 5th and was hit with a shot. That gave GGG confidence and he did start landing more making it a close match. But for stretches of the early portion of that match, GGG was getting schooled. Canelo just couldn't keep up the schooling throughout the entire match, but that's not a knock on Canelo. Just the fact that he was schooling GGG for even part of the match is an accomplishment by itself. You and many others continue to call things schoolings that aren't and ignore actual schooling that take place.
I must admit this gave me a hearty chuckle! Please do not edit any of this. Your legacy on this forum must live on forever!
Would you deny that Canelo was schooling GGG in the early rounds? Would you deny that Canelo was putting on a feinting clinic early on vs Mayweather? What about my post would you take exception with? I'm pointing out exactly what happened. I'm not claiming that Canelo schooled Mayweather or GGG start to finish. It took a while for both Mayweather and GGG to figure Canelo out. Mayweather obviously figured Canelo out to a much greater extent than GGG did, but in fairness Canelo was a more seasoned fighter by the time he fought GGG, and Canelo had to make a catchweight vs Mayweather which gave Mayweather an advantage vs Canelo that GGG didn't have.
Which fact that I posted are you crying about little man? Run along now I’m sure GGG needs his balls tickling
The OP using the term "beat" makes this topic a total joke, as GGG never beat Canelo, while Mayweather clearly did. If he had said "who fought the better version of Canelo" the answer is obviously GGG. GGG fought a tougher more seasoned version of Canelo. But at the same time he was the naturally bigger man as Canelo was a 154 lb-er, while Floyd was the naturally smaller man, however that was negated and then some by the catchweight. Both GGG and Mayweather fought close fights with Canelo. Mayweather fought Canelo before Canelo had truly peaked, and he did so at a catchweight which made it harder for Canelo to win. Had Mayweather fought Canelo straight up at 154 without any advantages it would have been even closer and Canelo would have had a better chance of winning. What we learned from that is how even Mayweather and Canelo were despite the age disparity. The fact that a 23 year old Canelo gave Mayweather his toughest fight in years speaks volumes. Canelo with a massive amount of pro experience at that age, was still not experienced at the highest level. You can have all the experience in the world, but fighting Floyd Mayweather is something that no amount of experience could prepare you for. That experience did make Canelo a better fighter and he applied what he learned vs Floyd and all of his opponents vs GGG. When you look at the strategy that Canelo used in that first GGG fight it was totally brilliant how he used his footwork and fought off the backfoot when no one expected him too including GGG it. He was making GGG look silly at times, catching him with huge shots when GGG became over-aggressive. It was a tremendous gameplan by Canelo and his team, the footwork and outboxing befuddled and frustrated GGG early on, but to GGG's credit he fought back in the middle rounds and turned it into a classic.
Far bigger in terms of him fighting his whole career at a weight class above where Canelo had been fighting at. Canelo debuted at 140 lbs. GGG debuted at 160 lbs.
