Take Patterson away from Liston and Sonny’s legacy is hurtin’. Of course he beat some good fighters in Folley, Machen, Harris, and Williams but I don’t know if that’s enough to build an ATG resume on.
I have honestly never seen anyone who thought JMM won the Barrera fight. Huh. "Live long enough," I guess.
I will concede that there is an argument, perhaps a good one, for Mosley being an ATG It was close enough that I would have had no major issue with a draw but felt that Marquez edged it
I will “see” your George Foreman quote and “raise” you Dempsey without Willard. I can’t say that I know Dempseys career inside and out but I have often wondered how different things would be for the perception of Dempsey if he had not been allowed to stand in front of Willard and I unload as soon as he rose to his feet. I think Dempsey is an all time great but the rest of his career is not as impressive without his win over Willard to crown it.
How about Vitali, without Lennox will he be considered ATG? GGG without Canelo Benitez without Cervantes