Most well rounded heavyweight champion ever

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  1. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    My top candidates are Holmes, Louis and Holyfield.
     
  2. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    The big fellow... James Jeffries.
     
  3. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Very tough. Ali, Holmes, Holyfield, Charles, and Walcott would all be top picks for me, but I would actually have to say Joe Louis, even though I don't think he was as good as the others. But power-wise, Louis was also a good boxer. Ali, Holmes, and Holyfield check most of the boxes, but I don't think qualify on power. Charles and Walcott do, but Louis hit harder than all of those guys.
     
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  4. BELLERS

    BELLERS Active Member Full Member

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    For 3 or 4 years Mike Tyson was unbeatable.
    Only poor life choices, bad advice & hangers on stopped him eclipsing Marciano’s record.
    For longevity probably Larry Holmes.
     
  5. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Joe Louis nails everything for me. Ali and Holmes are up there. Charles was a sneaky good pick as well. Holyfield.
     
  6. louis54

    louis54 Well-Known Member Full Member

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  7. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    Muhammad Ali, he had longevity, he brought a style that had been not seen before. He had charisma, he had footwork, reflexes, stamina , and blinding speed in his prime years, 1964-1967. He fought against his challengers in their backyards. He was very vocal and spoke with intelligence. He was not afraid to stand up for what he believed in, he was willing to sit out 3 and a half years for what he believed in. When he returned in 1970, he had lost his prime attributes but figured out other ways to win, he was resourceful, and in 1974, it worked, beating George Foreman to win back the title that he never lost in the ring, only to Uncle Sam.
     
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  8. META5

    META5 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I agree and disagree.

    Part of being well-rounded, to me, has to include longevity, resilience and other intangibles that the very best of the best displayed. Skillset alone won't always win a fight, sometimes you have to bring the inner-Ares out and be a God of War.

    Tyson wasn't proficient at all ranges, predominantly being a mid-range fighter. His temperament and the issue with entourage, the rapid decline of his skillset post-Rooney and post-prison antics make a lot of people overegg the criticism when hypothesising H2H, but still, his frailties are a very real factor.
     
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  9. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I like Ali and Louis
     
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  10. RightLeftCombo

    RightLeftCombo Active Member Full Member

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    Larry Holmes is the best all round package for me, followed then by Ali and Louis.
     
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  12. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Lewis was easy to hit with jabs.
     
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  13. Eddie Ezzard

    Eddie Ezzard Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Andy Ruiz Jr.
     
  14. TipNom

    TipNom Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Vitali
    Holmes
    Lewis
    Holyfield

    Bowe would be on this list if he just had more footspeed
     
  15. Johnny_B

    Johnny_B Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    No he doesn't.
    Ali checks these categories: Hand Speed, Footspeed, Durability, Endurance, Ring Generalship.
    But he doesn't check these categories: Power, Defense, Killer Instinct.

    Mike Tyson is the closest one to perfection.