No I don't think his career is over by any stretch unless he chooses to retire. I don't think Wilder would beat Fury or Joshua and think he could lose to some of the other HWs. Wilder could still establish himself as the top HW in America and not face some of the top HWs from Europe I'm sure some will point that Ruiz beat Joshua but in general think Joshua would beat Ruiz 8/10 times and think Ruiz got Joshua at a time when he was burned out
Fury has Wlad and Wilder. Joshua has Wlad, Povetkin, Parker, Ruiz and Whyte. I'd say that puts Joshua on top.
Depth vs quality. Fury also has Chisora and Wallin might turn out to be a solid win in years to come.
Fury has Wilder. Joshua has White. That's it. Once again, old man Klitschko doesn't count, in his prime both of them would have lost imo.
Well, I will admit that you can see this one either way and no harm done, but I go with Fury, because... 1. The Fury win over Wladdy was the important one. Fury dethroned and ATG champ with 17 defenses. Joshua got him a year and a half later with that much ring rust. 2. Wilder is nominally the best second win of either guy. Not really of course. Wilder is a fraud. But appearances are sometimes more than reality. Wilder has his rabid fan base that believe that he is a better version of Ernie Shavers, and a legit champ with nine defenses. I have no trouble admitting that Povetkin, Whyte, Ruiz and Parker all might have beaten him, though. Now, here is the big one. 3. Fury is undefeated, and losses are part of the record. On the balance I say Fury, although I have no problem giving it to Joshua either. Two great guys in my opinion.
Wilder is who he is, there’s no changing him. So, as flawed as he is, he’ll always be a massive threat to less skilled HW’s and a light breakfast for elite. His career is not over, even after he loses to Fury again he’ll be able to feast on C-D level fighters again.
Furys win over a 17 defence super champ trumps anything Joshua has done. The Wlad that AJ beat was a corpse of the one Fury beat and he nearly got stopped (showed a good chin on this fight) and he is AJs best proformace and win imo. Sasha is a decent win but to be fair he was well past his prime at the time of the AJ fight and Ancient now Whyte is about to fight him. Parker was just there for the payday sold his belt didn't show any ambition at all. Whyte was out of shape and raw at the time, AJ got him at the right moment. ( interesting fight now though) Fat lad Ruiz dont even go there he is **** and he banjoed AJ in first fight. It is looked on as a Tyson Douglas upset for a reason he is just not good at all. So Fury has Wlad as a 17 defence super champ (in his backyard), Wilder x2 (everyone knows Fury was robbed in fight 1 in his back yard) As well as solid wins over Chisora x2 and 2x World Champ USS Steve Cunningham. Could also add Wallin to the list as i also think he is pretty decent and that will will age well in time. ( i think Wallin beats Sasha, Parker and Ruiz) Clearly Fury has a better Resume than AJ at this point.
I don't think either Fury's or Joshua's wins over old man Wlad meant much. The only big win any heavyweight's had since Wlad held the throne was Fury's win over Wilder. Period.
