Fighters who experience too much success too young

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  1. tinman

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    These guys that come from Eastern Europe usually get a late start to their pro careers. So they have less time to build up their record because they hit their prime much earlier in their pro career. But they also have the benefit of maturity. These guys are almost always true professionals who take their craft seriously. They seem to have more focus and discipline and are less prone to fall into bad lifestyle traps which could affect their in ring performance.

    Look at how guys like Adrien Broner and Mike Tyson spiraled out of control. They experienced success at a very young age. And they were not mentally mature enough to handle it. The same thing seems to be happening to Gervonta Davis.

    Compare that to guys like Marquez, Hopkins and Froch who didn't achieve the same level of success until their late 20s/early 30s. And they continued to stay focused, disciplined and on the grind.
     
  2. West of Hollywood

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    Wilfredo Benitez the poster boy for too much too soon!?
     
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  4. tinman

    tinman VIP Member Full Member

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    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well exactly. He could've fought on TV and got a title shot after a year.
     
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  6. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Might've ruined him
     
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  7. AwardedSteak863

    AwardedSteak863 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think Fernando Vargas deserves mention. That guy was a really good amauter boxer and he was pretty young when he won his first title. His early fights he was pretty solid defensively and used his legs more and set up his punches behind the jab. After the Trinidad fight he seemed to really regress into more of a banger and he started to get tuned up a lot in fights. He also statted to balloon up in weight in between fights which really hurt his performances. He was pretty much done for at age 30. I remember thinking when he first turned pro that he had the skill and power to develop into a really good champ at 160 eventually.
     
  8. tinman

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    He also couldn't handle the Trinidad loss. He got absolutely destroyed and beaten down by Trinidad. But he could never admit he was beaten by the better man and move on. All he did was complain about his "balls" to Larry Merchant. He didn't the maturity to fight on the big stage.
     
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  9. Olu G. Rotimi

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    Yeah but he was absolutely fantastic let’s be honest.
     
  10. AwardedSteak863

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    Agreed. As he got older he bought into the machismo BS instead of his boxing ability. He took a lot of unnecessary punishment for a guy that had so much skill.
     
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  12. Olu G. Rotimi

    Olu G. Rotimi The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    You know as for Vargas I really don’t think it was a case of to much success to young really More a case of him running into a truly great fighter as young fighter and champion. Once you are a champion then you have to be prepared for all comers and contenders as there is no where to hide.
     
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  13. tinman

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    This. Instead of progressing after an early career loss he regressed. Even the most macho of macho ATG's like Erik Morales, Marvin Hagler, etc. They all knew how to technically box. You can give the fans a great fight, but also show craft in the ring. You're going to need some skills to beat the top guys.
     
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  14. VG_Addict

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