Divisions that currently have a definitive "The Man"

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  1. tinman

    tinman VIP Member Full Member

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    I don't mean who is lineal, I mean what divisions is there have a definitive guy who is regarded as the unquestioned dominate force in the division. Since Usyk left 200 and Crawford left 140 there aren't as many left.

    I'd say at 118, 135, 175 there is a clear cut "The Man". Could be more, but my boxing knowledge gets fuzzy below 122 or 126. I thought about including Josh Taylor, but many people scored his fight against Prograis as a draw or even for Prograis altogether.
     
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  2. BELLERS

    BELLERS Active Member Full Member

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    Fury at Heavyweight ( he is very good but slightly overrated in my opinion )
     
  3. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Heavy, light-heavy, lightweight and bantam and light-welter are the only divisions I can even see an argument for this

    You can make an argument for AJ at HW because he's got three belts but the memory of him getting humiliated, bounced up and down off the canvas and stopped by a walking blob is still too fresh in the memory and even though he was able to rectify that loss and display some newfound versatility to his game, he fought scared whereas Fury literally turned into a destroyer and a soul harvester in the rematch against that useless dosser from Tuscaloosa and he returned to the scene of the crime where he'd been robbed and annexed that WBC belt from him on enemy soil in style.
     
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  4. chico g

    chico g What are you staring at Mr Trump?! hahaha! Full Member

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    Usyk will be sent down to cruiserweight when these huge behemoths tee off on him, mark my words.
     
  5. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Middleweight- Canelo Alvarez
     
  6. tinman

    tinman VIP Member Full Member

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    He doesn't fight at MW full time and he has multiple highly disputed decisions at 160.
     
  7. Baneofthegame

    Baneofthegame Active Member Full Member

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    HW - Fury.
    LHW - Beterbiev.
    LW - Lomachenko
    BW - Inoue.
     
  8. jaytxxl

    jaytxxl Well-Known Member Full Member

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    There is no way you can say HW until the 3 guys fight each other.. Fury has proven in the past that he can stay focused long enough to even make 1 title defense, Wilder has proven that he can be outboxed and was demolished by Fury, and AJ has shown that he can be clipped and embarrassed by Andy and then proceed to fight very safe in the rematch..

    LHW-Beterbiev
    LW-Loma
    Bantam-Inoue
     
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  9. Deew

    Deew Active Member Full Member

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    Two guys.
     
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  10. Olu G. Rotimi

    Olu G. Rotimi The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    AJ has 4 belts don’t forget the IBO. Now I have finished laughing that was a good one, it reminds me of back in the day when it was suggested to Julio Cesar Chavez to test the waters at Welterweight by winning the WBO title and a bemused JCC said was is a WBO?
     
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  11. bandeedo

    bandeedo VIP Member Full Member

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    Lmao! Beating wilder makes fury the man? This from the same people been telling everyone for years what a garbage fighter wilder really is...now he’s the benchmark for greatness, lol.
     
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  12. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    On the other hand people who have been spouting for years that Wilder would KO Fury and AJ aren't recognizing Fury as the best like they did Wilder. Same crap, different perspective.
     
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  13. bandeedo

    bandeedo VIP Member Full Member

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    So they are full of **** because others are full of **** too? Awesome life strategy.
     
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  15. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    ''The Man'' at HW is a straight choice between Fury and AJ.

    Fury became ''The Man'' after he travelled over to hostile territory to ''The Man'' Wlad's backyard where everything was stacked against him and annexed all three of his belts from him, dethroning the #1 HW king in the process who hadn't been bested in over a decade.

    And the after the powers that be stole his belts from him and tried to blame an innocent gypsy for a crime he did not do it sent him spiralling into a deep depression and the mother of all coke and booze binges for 2.5 years.

    The industrial abuse he put his body through during those 2.5 years in the wilderness would finish most mortal men, let alone put an end to the career of an elite athlete and being able to come back from that, the mental heath problems, being on the verge of committing suicide, and the massive weight gain and loss to reclaim your throne and your #1 spot has to rank as one of the greatest comebacks in sporting history, which he was cruelly robbed of achieving in the first fight against Bootleg D even though he was an inactive drug-ravaged muscle atrophied suicidal shell of himself and hadn't fought anyone with a pulse in three years. He looked like **** in those two exhibition fights against zero threat scrubs and truth be told he had no right being in a ring with a top HW at that time.

    Bootleg D is and always has been a useless dosser who can't box or fight to save his life but it's more about the circumstances and what Fury had overcome and the manner of victory beating said have gloves won't travel useless dosser on enemy turf which elevates Fury to the #1 spot in tandem with AJ having recently been humiliated and battered by a walking blob and then fighting scared in the rematch against an even fatter version of said blob who'd been living la vida loca.

    Fury moseyed on over to enemy territory and dethroned a long reigning champion in Wlad and then he did the same against Bootleg D x 2 when he was a 40% shell of himself and only 60% in the rematch when he returned to the scene of the crime where he'd robbed of glory and redemption. He wasn't talking no **** this time and he ripped it out of judge's hands and beat the soul of of D's body in biblical fashion.

    When AJ got dropped by Fat Andy on enemy territory he fell to pieces mentally and looked shell shocked, ditto for D against Fury albeit on home turf. However, when Fury literally got flatlined by the hardest right hand ''the hardest puncher of all time'' has ever thrown or likely will ever throw on enemy territory he nonchalantly rose from the dead like Lazarus, did a cheeky little jig when the ref instructed him to move to his right, put his hands behind his back and taunted D like a madman and then proceeded to take the fight to him and not only win the remainder of the round but actually hurt D too.


    And not only that Furydamus prophesied it all long before it all came to pass too.

    An 18 y/o Fury

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    ''2013 British champion'' - check. He achieved that in 2011

    ''2014 European champion'' - check. Won the Euro title that year.

    ''2016 Undisputed HW champion'' - became the three-belt unified champion in 2015 and would've won the WBC by 2016 had the establishment not tried to ruin his life

    And Fury did belatedly add the final piece of the jigsaw when he annexed the WBC strap from Bootleg D

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    And the only reason the current WBA, IBF, & WBO unified king AJ has those belts in his trophy cabinet is because they were stolen from The Gypsy King by the powers that be who tried to frame an innocent gypsy man for a crime he did not commit

    Fury also promised to punish Bootleg D for the disrespect he showed to his namesake and fellow top 3 ATG HW and legend of the sport aka the great Mike Tyson and he was true to his word on that too

    And back in 2013 Furydamus also prophesied that he would knockout Bootleg D and that has now come to pass too

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    And this too

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