Both of these statements are true in my view. I do think all these desperate attempts at rehabilitation of Wilder are interesting however. Over the two fights any reasonable observer would concede he's been exposed, but for some who bought into the hype theeyre too far invested to admit that. So we've had the various conspiracy theories, glovegate, attacks on the referee etc etc. It's been hilarious to watch and frankly as or more entertaining than the fight itself. Long may we continue to see people embarrass themselves in this manner!
Also people are not giving Fury enough credit. Most of Wilder's opponents get embarrassed they get knocked out with ease and don't do anything to him. Even in the first fight it took him twelve rounds to nearly KO Fury. However in the first fight Fury didn't throw enough effective punches. Wilder threw more power shots and nearly KO'd him so it wasn't a huge robbery.
The knock downs made up the score a bit but wilder was outclassed the rest of the fight. If the rules were you win a boxing match based on knock downs wilder would have won. But that’s not the boxing rules is it. So in all fairness can you award wilder the whole fight based on that. Not really, which equals Fury being robbed in all reality. Luckily he was able to show this in the rematch, leaving little reason to continue this saga...
i'm gonna have to give it another watch, but I was ever so slightly leaning towards wilder the first time. However, I could definitely see a draw as being "fair". No doubt, Fury projected more confidence, but I don't automatically translate a projection of confidence as winning rounds. He only landed slightly more total punches overall than wilder, but with 2 knockdowns I'd have to say wilder's punches were more effective. I'll give it another go sometime soon and try to be more rigorous in my round by round scoring. Either way, i'm excited for the third fight and I really hope Wilder can prove the critics wrong.
I'm watching these rounds one after another they all are so close. How could you guys be so sure? I just can't this understand
I had it 115-111 Fury. Gave Wilder round 2, 9 & 12, with the latter two given as 10-8 rounds. Fury swept the rest with relative ease, although his low (but accurate) output made it seem closer.
I don't see that as relevant. Yes, Fury could have thrown more punches, Wilder hit harder and Fury only just beat the count in the 12th round. But all of those things could happen with Fury winning 11 of the 12 rounds. What matters is the scorecard. How anyone can think Wilder even drew that fight let alone won it is a mystery to me. Fury was robbed.
Yes, of course but if you read my message again you'll see that I said that each of points you mentioned to support your argument that it wasn't a huge robbery could have occurred with Fury winning 11 of the 12 rounds.
It is true, you can get a 9-9 round only with a point deduction. Scored 10-9, with a point taken away. What makes you say it's not true? Read up on the 10 point must system, there's lots of sources out there that explain it.