ATG FEATHERWEIGHT TOURNIE: ROUND 1, FIGHT 7 -ALEXIS ARGUELLO UD15 FREDDIE MILLER

Yeah, I sussed out that's what you were doing. Although personally, I'd say Marcel is worthy of being top 16, especially if Arguello is.

Alas, it is your list and I'm no guru.

Anyway, aside from Armstrong, I don't think I'd pick too many guys over Marcel. Pep, Saldívar, Sanchez, Pedroza and Saddler are all maybes, I think he's right there on that level.

 

Gomez twice, Arguello and Shibata are my recollection. I thought he won all of the ones on film with room to spare.

For example, you have Arguello in there, who has wins over Olivares, Kobayashi, Hafey and Herandez. Is that much better than Marcel's, if at all? Not imo, plus Marcel had more defences, stayed around longer and was better H2H.

Like I said, I'm no lower weight guru like yourself, but I disagree with Arguello being above Marcel. Personally I think both are around 8-12.

 

Arguello..beast at 126 IMO. Dont pick many to beat him at 126 or 130 for that matter

 

Miller might have been more of a pest than a pure boxer, but he's a skilled, mobile, durable pest. I say those are attributes that could allow Miller to give Arguello fits. I've got Miller stealing enough rounds by darting in, getting some business done and getting out before Arguello can set himself to land anything really huge to secure a close decision over 15.

 

A few things: Arguello also sparked Legra inside a round, and Marcel lost to Hernandez (although might have been a robbery as the AP account only really shows Marcel putting Hernandez through the ropes and it was in Venezuela)

Whittling it down to ‘ranked guys’ doesn’t tell the whole story IMO as the guys Marcel beat were phenomenal. Sometimes quality>quantity IMO. I have Marcel tenth, but McGrain also doesn’t outwardly say ‘film says robbery so I say robbery’ which is fine as well, but Marcel dominated Shibata for 11 of the 15 rounds IMO

 

I pick Miller. Arguello could be outboxed and I think Miller with his tricky southpaw style could do it. I think Miller establishes his jab and uses his slick style to avoid Arguello's combinations. He'd have to take some punishment as anyone fighting Arguello would, but I think he could pull off a split decision.

 

Miller I think