Is Floyd the most feather fisted ATG ever?

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  1. deyell

    deyell MOLECULE FROM HELL. Full Member

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    Shantel Jackson would disagree...
     
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  2. Olu G. Rotimi

    Olu G. Rotimi The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    If he could not punch all the guys he beat 48 of them and 2 of whom he fought and beat twice would have walked through his punches to get to him and beat but clearly he punched hard enough to keep them in check and beat them.
     
  3. TipNom

    TipNom Active Member Full Member

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    Kid Gavilan has only one more knock out than Floyd despite having nearly 3 times as many fights as Floyd had.
     
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  4. Olu G. Rotimi

    Olu G. Rotimi The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    No evidence he hit her.
     
  5. MURK20

    MURK20 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Let him hit you in the mouth and then call him featherfisted.
     
  6. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think Willie Pep's power is a little underrated. He KO'd Sal Bartolo with one punch and broke his jaw. Has KO's in over half of his title defences. KO'd Jimmy MclAllister with a single body shot. Scored a bunch of kd's. He went on record as saying he carried a number of his opponents in order to ensure that he'd keep getting regular work. So, it's very possible that he could have registered additional KO's during his career, especially early on.

    For context, one of his regular opponents, Chalky Wright, registered 83 KO's in over 220 fights, and is rated as one of the greatest punchers in the history of the featherweight division.

    Anyway, the correct answers are still Teddy Yarosz and Miguel Canto, along with Tommy Loughran, and Maxie Rosenbloom.

    Neither FMJ nor Pep were anywhere near as featherfisted as those fighters.
     
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  7. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Momento mori Full Member

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    Totally agree most top boxers punch harder than the average person I was just going off records
     
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  8. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Which is absolutely understandable. I just think that there are some cases where you can tell if a fighter hit harder than his record might indicate, and Pep is one notable example of that.
     
  9. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think you can add Midget Wolgast to that list.

    I don't think the KO% is good inductive anyway, no-one is gonna say that Dick Tiger couldn't punch, but his KO% does.
     
  10. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Good call on Wolgast.

    Yeah, Jimmy McLarnin would be another example of a legitimate puncher with a lackluster KO percentage.
     
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  11. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think you could add Ceferino Garcia to that list, only 40 something percent, but he hit hard enough to drop Ross three times, KO Baby Gans and KO Fred Apostle. Obviously as well as being known as a puncher at the time.

    Good call on McLarnin.
     
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  12. SpeedKills

    SpeedKills Well-Known Member Full Member

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    When an exhausted chavez is just trudging forward and Mayweather still can’t knock him down or hurt him, instead they just have to stop it because the guy is too tired and getting wailed on. Yes. He was never a puncher.
     
  13. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You could do this for ages.

    Tony Canzoneri only has 44 KO's in 175 fights, but no one would refer to him as being feather-fisted.
    Ezzard Chales has a KO percentage of less than 50 percent. So does Lloyd Marshall. Neither of those guys would be considered feather fisted, either.
     
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  14. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Beat me to it on Charles, he's my go-to when it comes underrated offensive fighters. I'd love to see his highlight reel if his career was completely on film, it'd be devastating.
     
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  15. Carl Weathers

    Carl Weathers Member Full Member

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    Why don't we ask someone who has been in the ring with Mayweather and bear in mind this was at the end of his career...... (starts at 4mins 5 seconds)

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