Why Ingemar Johansson was a lame fighter. In other words, Cleveland Williams haters club gather here

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  1. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Think. Logically. About. Ingo. and. Cleve. Or I should say. Think. Period. All Ingo had was a right hand, no more. And if you have a narrow-minded, anti-Williams approach to boxing, then when you watch Williams it's easy to call a guy unskilled who you want to believe is unskilled. The only reason he is is because you guys want him to be. At the very worst, Williams is just a good puncher, in which case so is Ingo. But Cleve hit harder imo, and did not rely on any one type of punch in either hand. Ingo never fought any big punchers other than Cooper and Patterson. Cleve did fight a few, and did not to bad. Ingo KO'd a green Cooper, and beat Machen (I forgot about him) who was inexperienced to a degree, and beat Floyd. But anybody will lose after being pelted on the back of the neck with a haymaker right. Floyd easily whipped Ingo in rematches. Remember to turn your brains on next time b4 you enter a Williams discussion.
     
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    klompton2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Eddie Machen was inexperienced when he lost to Johanssson? Thats comical. He had been a top ten rated contender for several years and his prime basically ended with Johansson's right hand tapping his jaw. He was undefeated, had more fights than Johansson, and had much more experience against world class competition.
     
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  4. William Walker

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    Yes, you're right. I'm getting burnt out on these Williams discussions anyway. Kind of dumb me posting this i suppose.
     
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