Why do hard fights 'taken something' from fighters

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  1. Devon

    Devon Well-Known Member Full Member

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    People say after a war of a fight 'that must have taken something from him' but surely a good rest would recover them just like a gym session, but a longer rest because of injuries?
     
  2. Smokin Bert

    Smokin Bert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Spoken like somebody who has never entered a boxing ring.
     
  3. RB1702

    RB1702 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Because getting punched in the head repeatedly with punches that are so hard which make your brain internally shake is very bad for your physical and mental health. You can take a beating so bad that you’re not the same afterwords. Could be something like daily migraines or even behavioural changes like Ike Beabuchi who went practically insane after the Tua fight. Timothy Bradley has said he firmly believes Provodnikov took literal years off his life. It’s a serious sport and one fight can have dire consequences.
     
  4. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Unfortunately you only have so many fights in you and those hard fights really take it out of you and that isn’t something you ever get back. My old roommate Jorge “Kid Flash” Diaz was a long time sparring partner of PAC in his prime had plenty of gym wars with him and at 37 Jorge definitely isn’t as lucid as he used to be.

    My trainer used to always say that fighters trade their future durability and mental acuity for money and for some fighters it ends up being worth it, but for many others not so much.
     
  5. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hmm?,, I sense you've never had a good azz whippin. There's the physical damage in a war of attrition type fight and there's also the mental aspect of having to dig deep into your reserve of courage , determination and intestinal fortitude in the face of pain and adversity.These reserves are limited especially as a fighter ages. Joe Frazier was finished after Manilla and Ferdie Pacheco urged Ali to retire as well. You rarely see older fighters go to war, Duran against Barkley might be the best example of a guy almost 38 in a knock down drag out brawl.
     
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  6. DJN16

    DJN16 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Simple really.... The mind and body can only take so much.

    Heads, brains, kidneys etc were not designed to take punishment.
     
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  7. pistal47

    pistal47 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    what's happening in the brain from repeated big impacts when a fighter is dehydrated and tired is basically impenetrable barriers are being built as that is all happening, nature's way of fail-safing so you don't get that dumb again so you can indeed survive another day............... and when it's all over and your body and mind have gone through their healing period those impenetrable barriers are now fully constructed and irreversible, and you will never be able to tap into many things you once could. It's the biggest component in a fighter being "shot."
     
  8. Devon

    Devon Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I would confidently bet 1 million that I have spent more time in the boxing ring and gym than you
     
  9. f1ght3rz

    f1ght3rz Ronaldoooo is crying in his caaaaaar Full Member

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    1 Million peanuts? Your question is dumb as **** to be honest. Read some science based studies about the impact of punches to the head on brain function and other stuff. You will learn something for sure.
     
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  10. Zulawski

    Zulawski The Fistic Pariah Full Member

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    Usually just takes away an air of invincibility. You see a hole in their style which you didn't see before. Usually against a better opponent than they've faced prior.

    If it's a question of durability, that's usually accumulative. Due a lot more to sparring and training than one fight.

    I think the "one fight changed them" narrative is lazy and largely false.
     
  11. Devon

    Devon Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It is not a dumb question because I seen somewhere that if you give it time, you can recover from that
     
  12. Forza

    Forza Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Its like how if you break a bone once, it becomes easier and easier to break. You might "heal" up after a few months, but you won't be able t go that hard ever again without breaking down.
     
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  13. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    If that were the case then there would be no punch drunk fighters
     
  14. f1ght3rz

    f1ght3rz Ronaldoooo is crying in his caaaaaar Full Member

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    You can recover from nearly everything. You can recover from a torn ACL, from a broken leg, from a horrendous car crash with various broken bones and you can also recover from a very hard boxing fight where you took a lot of punishment. The question is how it affects your body and your future performances. There is a reason why a lot of chins got cracked once and from then they were cracked over and over again. Your body can absorb an insane amount of punishment but at some point either the recovery isn't as fast as before OR your body reacts different. Some other factors are playing an important role too. For example age. If you're 27, 28 or 29 you can probably recover from that better and faster than at 38. Or the weight. There is a reason why Heavyweights fighting until they're 38-40 or older and small weight class fighters are calling it a career at 33, 34 or 35.
     
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  15. Devon

    Devon Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Well maybe they don't take long enough breaks after hard fights or hard sparring, fighters don't always chose the safe decisions for example if they get concussed, most wouldn't take the 3 month recommended break, they just get in there the next day and spar whilst concussed and that takes its toll over time, James Toney is punch drunk and he sparred every day
     
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