Jarrell Miller and Agit Kabayel to open the HW games again

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  1. anjawnaymiz

    anjawnaymiz Can we get Ivan Dychko some momentum Full Member

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    I thought Kabayal had been so quiet because he was waiting to announce some big fight/deal stateside and follow in pulevs footsteps? Instead he is fighting a bum on German soil, almost 2 years wasted of his career
     
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  2. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    One of the things he got caught for is EPO, which gives you just that. His build and juggernaut physique is obviously HGH and Endurobol fueled, nothing natural about that either.
    He might be, but in a 80's and 90's doped up free for all kinda way.
     
  3. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Miller is just a big guy. He's built like a defensive lineman in football and has deceptive speed and energy levels. He does't have a lot of fat on him. I don't know what EPO is, or how or makes you a better fighter, but like I said he's skilled and in his prime.

    Maybe I'm slightly based, but the next great American heavyweight has to come from a traditionally good area. NY City fits. Bowe, Tyson, Briggs...Maybe Miller isn't quite that good, but he's from their school.
     
  4. POTUS

    POTUS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Rooting for Forrest :chuck:
    Then he's coming to kick Hrgovich's cotton candy arse
     
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  5. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    EPO is the main thing what Lance Armstrong used to cheat his way trough 7 Tour de France wins. Gives you insane energy due to multiplying red bloodcells and enhance oxygen intake in your body.
    Also, he gained 60lbs in mass and can still move, not really normal either.
     
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  6. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I'm your huckleberry, that's just mah game Full Member

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    I think Hunter is the US's best heavyweight at the moment. He might be a bit undersized but he has world class skills and isn't afraid to fight anyone. His exposure to some of the best in the division had also battle hardened him and I expect him to nick a decent scalp in the very near future. He should probably have got the nod against Povetkin, to be fair.

    I'd also like to see Bryant Jennings get back in the saddle, but I fear he might have fallen into a bit of a sparring partner mentality. He seems to lack that dog which he had when he was coming up the ranks and already has a few losses to lesser ranked guys under his belt.

    Wilder you're right is probably mentally crushed, but physically he's still one of the most dangerous HWs.

    Miller, frankly, is just a huge tank with minimal skills who's only got as far as he has due to what looks like rampant juicing. You say his 'amazing energy' has nothing to do with PEDs. I disagree. I think his entire success has been built on PEDs, and were he to fight natural (or even on a minimal dose of PEDs) I expect he'd be nothing special. He has an atrocious defence, and can't seem to close down fighters other than by walking straight forward and just steamrolling them with his bulk (PED assisted). Take away his PEDs and his bulk diminishes drastically which affects his ability to take a shot or grind down opponents, his strength drops which means his arm punches no longer do as much damage, and he likely starts gassing out much sooner. He basically becomes Chris Arreola.
     
  7. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I'm your huckleberry, that's just mah game Full Member

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    Yeah, he's really dropped off the radar. Pity, as he has one of the most well-rounded styles in the division right now. An all-round excellent technician. But that can only take you so far.
     
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  9. anjawnaymiz

    anjawnaymiz Can we get Ivan Dychko some momentum Full Member

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  10. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Wilder and Ruiz are both far better than Miller, he can`t do anything those two can`t and he doesn`t have Ruiz`s hand speed, no way could he have stopped AJ.
     
  11. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Wilder has far more power than Miller and Fury would have out-boxed Miller far more convingly than the way he out-boxed Wildder in their first clash.
     
  12. Mendoza

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    Miller can box, and takes a much better punch than Wilder. Fury resume outside of Wilder and 39 year old Wlad is thin.
     
  13. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Miller cannot box like Fury, he doesn`t have the reflexes and Ruiz proved his chin v AJ who is a bigger puncher than anyone Miller has faced.
     
  14. Mendoza

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    I don't fully disagree with you, but Miller has been full of energy since day one. Are you suggest he was on PED's the whole time? Could have been for just one drug test. Steroids will increase muscle stamina yes, but too many muscles drains stamina and eats up oxygen so it's a slippery slope.

    Miller is a high energy boxer, who likes to mix it and can in-fight. He's got fast hands and some pop. He doesn't have minimal skills. I see skills, and the type of game that make most uncomfortable.

    Hunter simply lacks the size and power to be a factor. A solid guy. Nothing beyond that. Jennings is done. Wilder's stock is approaching Wile E. Coyote status. He's taken his first step off the cliff, blamed an ACME costume for his failures, and look out below:lupie:
     
  15. It's Ovah

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    I am definitely suggesting Miller has been on PEDs the whole time, and was probably on a stack of them back when he fought in K-1. PEDs don't forget are performance enhancing drugs, not just a synonym for steroids. EPO has a drastic and measurable effect on stamina, and that was one of the three PEDs Miller popped for back last April. The man was basically a walking chemical laboratory, completely fuelled by drugs to enhance every aspect of his physical performance.

    Jennings is probably done as a top contender, I agree. Wilder's status still needs to be confirmed, though I suspect he'll start taking a lot more losses now that his confidence is smashed. I expected that to happen once he tasted his first defeat and he hasn't disappointed me yet in his post-fight behavriour.

    I disagree with you fundamentally on Hunter. If his lack of size and power were going to be a problem they'd have been so long before now. He's already beaten Ustinov, Bakole, Kuzmin, and now stood toe to toe with Povetkin. He clearly has no issues facing HW punchers and dealing with HW pressure. Who in the top ten would you say would be a lock to beat him? Only the top three really (that includes Usyk, not Wilder). I'd certainly pick him to beat Miller provided Miller isn't back on the industrial strength happy juice.
     
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