Boxers who have self enhanced their "legacy" in retirement

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  1. Berlenbach

    Berlenbach Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Foreman takes it to the other extreme, claiming he was scared of everyone and ducked loads of fighters. His legacy his secure and he's richer than Crassus, so I think he's just content to play the nice guy now. I take some of what he says with a pinch of salt though.
     
  2. young griffo

    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Every so often the facade slips and he says that no fighter stood up to him which is true to an extent. The guys that tried to rumble with him generally finished semi-conscious. The smart ones just boxed him.
    Going by his Twitter though, hes a good man who appreciates and respects all of the guys he fought. A class act.
     
  3. Italian Stallion

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    What can a retired fighter who never won a title usually do to enhance the legacy of his pro career?
     
  4. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Change his name to David Tua.
     
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  5. Bronze Tiger

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    Golota has a reputation for being a quitter ...that certainly doesn’t help him in hypothetical matchups
     
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  6. mcvey

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    Croesus,Crassus was the Roman General who put down the slave revolt and had Spartacus crucified.
     
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  7. surfinghb1

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    I think Paz lobbies for the hall of fame every year he goes !!!
     
  8. Italian Stallion

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    That's how he's mostly viewed. He did make the Hall of Fame out in Illinois and won some accolades in Europe but in the grand scheme it'll be hard for him to earn props as a retiree in North America.
     
  9. LoadedGlove

    LoadedGlove Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's the thing with Fighters. The longer it's been, the better they were.
     
  10. LoadedGlove

    LoadedGlove Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I hear that Alan Minter has mellowed over the past couple of years. Tony Sibson says they are now mates and apparently he has made his peace with Marvin Hagler but for years Alan banged on like he was God's gift to gloves !
    I'm not suggesting that Minter wasn't a fine Boxer and Champion but there was a time when Joe Louis couldn't have beaten the Fighter Alan thought he was.
     
  11. clum

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    Collins vs. McCallum was a clear McCallum win. McCallum won at least four of the first five rounds, and then Collins had a good sixth round. The narrative around this fight has become that McCallum really struggled once Collins started applying pressure, but really all that happened is that the fight became competitive at that point. By no means was Collins dominating. I think I had McCallum winning 8-4 the last time I watched it.

    I scored Collins vs. Johnson 6-6 the last time I watched it, each fighter losing a point. My recollection is that Collins' rounds were generally close and Johnson's wider, and that Johnson looked like the better boxer over the course of the fight.

    Collins vs. Kalambay saw Collins take the the first few rounds just because he was working and Kalambay was barely throwing. Collins was wild and sloppy, though, with a low percentage of shots landed, and as the fight wore on a sizable majority of the clean shots were coming from Kalambay. It was a decent strategy on paper - try to force the 36-year-old man to match your workrate - but Kalambay was too much of a pro to go down that simply. 7-5 or 8-4 for Kalambay, a bit closer than the McCallum fight (Kalambay didn't look as sharp as 1990 McCallum), but still a clear win.

    Overall I don't think that he deserved the win in any of his losses, but had he gotten the verdict against Johnson I wouldn't have any complaints.
     
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