Timeline of the P4P number fighter throughout history.

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  1. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    About 10 years ago I traced the guy I felt was divisional number 1 throughout history and re reading those thread got me thinking if it's possible to try to trace a P4P number fighter throughout history.

    Ok here's my crack at the 1800s

    Dempsey: March 1982 - August 1989
    John L Sullivan: August 1889 - October 1890
    George Dixon: October 1890 - November 1896
    James J Corbett: November 1896 - March 1897
    Bob Fitzsimmons: March 1897 - June 1899
    Tommy Ryan: June 1899 - Jan 1900
    Terry McGovern: Jan 1900 - November 1901

    The Ring Mag has these guys listed on the in the year end

    Mike Tyson: June 1988 - February 1990
    Julio Cesar Chavez: February 1990 - September 1993
    Pernell Whitaker: September 1993 - November 1996
    Roy Jones Jr: November 1996 - March 1997
    Pernell Whitaker: March 1997 - April 1997
    Oscar De La Hoya: April 1997 - September 1999
    Roy Jones Jr: September 1999 - June 2000
    Shane Mosley: June 2000 - January 2002
    Bernard Hopkins: January 2002 - March 2003
    Roy Jones Jr: March 2003 - May 2004
    Bernard Hopkins: May 2004 - July 2005
    Floyd Mayweather Jr: July 2005 - June 2008
    Manny Pacquiao: June 2008 - June 2012
    Floyd Mayweather Jr: June 2012 - September 2015
    Roman Gonzalez: September 2015 - March 2017
    Andre Ward: March 2017 - September 2017
    Gennady Golovkin: September 2017 - September 2018
    Vasiliy Lomachenko: September 2018 - November 2019
    Saul Alvarez: November 2019 - Present Day

    I hope there aren't any errors there but I haven't proof read it so who knows.

    The question is, how far back can we go in terms of teaching the P4P number 1?
     
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  2. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The term was made for Sugar Ray Robinson. It is just someones opinion. No more.
     
  3. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Term pound for pound was first used to describe best boxers as early as late 1890s or early 1900s, long before SRR.
     
  4. ChrisJS

    ChrisJS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Golovkin, Ward, Canelo being #1 in recent times shows how bad these have gotten. Yikes.
     
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  5. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Yeah I'm sure it was used for NonPareil
     
  6. Eye of Timaeus

    Eye of Timaeus Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Not really. All great fighters.
     
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  7. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    I will give this a crack myself at some point and post it up for critique
     
  8. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wow, what a lineup for the 2010s: Pacquiao, Mayweather, Gonzalez, Ward, Golovkin, Lomachenko, Alvarez. Just goes to show, how great this era is!
     
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  9. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Agreed, but I have a feeling some don’t appreciate quite as much.
     
  10. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    It's a strong line-up, but if you did it for each decade I'm not convinced it'd stand out.

    Interesting idea, a P4P top 10, for each decade.
     
  11. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree, but this would present difficulties for guys who were prime between 68-73 or so as an example and miss out or are slighted due to overlaps.
     
  12. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The way I phrased it, was obvoisly meant as a counter to the "yikes" comment.

    That being said, I actually DO think we're in a decent era. Not claiming it's the best ever - but it's certainly not the worst there has ever been, as some posters like to think.
     
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  13. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    True, but I was mostly meaning in terms of comparing eras.
    Honestly I wasn't thinking about that, fair enough
     
  14. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Ok here's my crack at the 1800s

    Dempsey: March 1982 - August 1989
    John L Sullivan: August 1889 - October 1890
    George Dixon: October 1890 - November 1896
    James J Corbett: November 1896 - March 1897
    Bob Fitzsimmons: March 1897 - June 1899
    Tommy Ryan: June 1899 - Jan 1900
    Terry McGovern: Jan 1900 - November 1901
     
  15. Bronze Tiger

    Bronze Tiger Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Marvelous Marvin Hagler was the pound for pound king for most of early 80s .... Duran was pound for pound after Montreal
     
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