Timeline of the longest gloved boxing matches on record

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  1. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    I was reading about Danny Needham vs Patsy Kerrigan, and I got wondering about the progression for longest MoQ boxing matches, obviously these records have been unreachbale now for over a century, but I still think the progression is interesting

    This is just provisional, without looking into the fights much to verify the specific lengths (which I'll do once I have a decent list). Obviously it'd get silly going back to the earliest recorded ones, there's no clear line and it's totally arbitrary, but I want to start with significantly long ones.

    I edited in to update ones mentioned below

    1884-04-10 William Sherrif Vs John Welsh 73 round or 5h 6min
    1887-11-16 Jack McAuliffle Vs Jem Carney 74 rounds or about 5h
    1889-02-28 Kid Lavigne VS George Siddons 77 rounds
    1889-03-31 Ike Weir Vs Frank Murphy 80 rounds 5h 20min
    1890-02-27 Danny Needham Vs Patsy Kerrigan 100 rounds or 6h 42m
    1893-04-06 Andy Bowen Vs Jack burke 110 rounds or 7h 20min (also claimed 109 rounds or 7h 16min)

    Others mentioned in this thread
    1882 exact date unknown Denver Ed Smith vs Jack Roach 73 rounds
    1887-07-20 Ike Weir Vs Jack Havlin 61 rounds
    1887 Ed Kelly Vs Dan Dally
    Any I missed?
     
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  3. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    Denver Ed Smith vs Jack Roach is listed as 73 rounds on boxrec in 1882, but exact date unknown, which adds a big question mark, will look for a report.
     
  4. BitPlayerVesti

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    June 29th 1887 Tom Ward Vs Bill Scott for 69 rounds
     
  5. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Define significantly long ones.
    The earliest one is supposed to be between Bill Taylor and Tom Longer on Jan 10, 1881, Taylor winning in the 52nd round and the Sporting Life reported that Queensberry rules were used, but the rounds description and the time occupied don't confirm that statement, 1 hour 33 minutes would be 31 three-minute rounds without breaks.
    Next one would be between Larry Foley and William Miller on May 28, 1883, resulting in a 40-round draw.
    Then a 73 or 76 round draw between William Sheriff and John Welsh on April 10, 1884, just over 5 hours long.
    And many more after that.
     
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    23 Mar 1886 Tommy Warren defeated Tommy Barnes in the 45th round, a report at the time calls it the longest on record
     
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    March 23, not March 13. It probably was the longest MoQ championship bout at that point of time.
     
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    Yeah, that was typo
     
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    Ed Kelly Vs Dan Daly was also called the longest on record at the time April 26 1887 it ended after 63 rounds
     
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    1879 Aug 19 Mike Donovan Vs William McClellan was 3 hours 45min and and 94 rounds. Gloved, but obviously not MoQ. Interesting one, but I probably wouldn't count it.
     
  11. klompton2

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    Id be curious to know which of these had three minute rounds etc. Often times for these fights held during the transition between LPR and MoQ rules rounds are listed but then you find out that these guys fought 45 rounds or whatever but the fight lasted an hour because of the short rounds due to knockdowns, falls, etc. Thats kind of comparing apples and oranges to a fight like Gans-Nelson that went 42 3 minute rounds in the desert sun.
     
  12. BitPlayerVesti

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    2min rounds seem to have been fairly common in the UK around the same time too.

    The reports often mention the lengths in time, so I'll add that in when I can find it
     
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  13. Senya13

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    Listing only fights of 50 and more rounds:

    January or February 1888, at Newmarket, England, Monk lost to Donovan after 63 rounds, lasting 3h 25m, MoQ rules

    1889-01-09 George Mulholland D87 Bill Mahan, San Francisco, CA, about 6 hours

    1889-03-16 (or rather March 17, as the first round was started after midnight) Billy Mahan D63 Jack Sullivan, Sacramento, CA, over 4 hours

    1889-04-25 Kid Lavigne D55 George Siddons, near Grand Rapids, MI, over 4 or 5 hours depending on source

    1889-10-10 Tommy Ryan D57 or NC57 Jimmy Murphy, Grand Rapids, MI, about 4 hours

    1889-09-24 Frank Murphy NC68 Tommy Warren, San Francisco, CA, about 4 1/2 hours

    1889-09-26 Joe Soto W-KO57 Tommy Danforth, Los Angeles, CA, MoQ rules

    1889-11-21 Tommy White NC53 or NC54 Tommy Morgan, near Hammond, IN, MoQ rules

    1889-12-12 Young Griffo D70 Young Pluto, Melbourne, VIC, MoQ rules

    1890-05-23 Joe Ellingsworth W-KO50 or W-KO51 Denny Kelliher, San Francisco, CA

    1890-06-03 Fred Bogan NC73 Dal Hawkins, San Francisco, CA

    1890-12-06 Tommy White D90 or D91 Dan E. Daly, Omaha, NE

    1891-02-17 Tommy Ryan W-TKO76 Danny Needham, Minneapolis, MN

    1891-08-28 Jim Sullivan L-KO53 Australian Harry Daly, San Francisco, CA

    1891-11-27 Martin Flaherty D60 Abe Kid Lloyd, Streator, IL

    1892-01-26 Bill Page W-KO55 Phil Duncan, San Francisco, CA

    1892-01-28 Jack McAuley W-TKO55 Dan Connors, Los Angeles, CA

    1892-03-17 Deacon Jones NC69 Harry Dally, San Francisco, CA

    1892-03-31 John Worley D Jack Davis, Burlington, IA, 4h 15min or over 5 hours, depending on wire

    1892-04-14 Billy Frazier D83 Jack Favley, Providence, RI, 5 1/2 hours

    1892-05-09 Jerry Sullivan D56 P. McAllister, Shreveport, LA, over 4 hours

    1892-06-29 Joe Drew W-DQ63 Farris Parks, Little Rock, AK, MoQ rules

    1892-07-31 Jack Davis D51 Mickey Flynn, near Memphis, TN, but within AK state

    1892-08-30 Alec Greggains D50 Martin Costello, San Francisco, CA

    1892-09-29 George Siddons D56 Solly Smith, San Francisco, CA

    1892-11-28 Alec Greggains D80 Martin Costello, Brooklyn, NY

    1892-12-08 Mike Haugh W-TKO50 Tommy Creed, Buffalo, NY

    1892-12-23 Joe Drew D60 Billy Poole, Little Rock, AK

    1893-02-05 Harry Sharpe W-TKO77 Frank Crosby, near East St. Louis, IL

    1893-02-27 Tommy Cox D50 James Boyce, Washburne, IL

    1893-03-02 Dan Daly D82 Billy O'Donnell, Rowena, IA

    1893-03-07 Ed Corcoran D50 Joe Oates, Elizabeth, NJ, 3 1/2 hours

    1893-05-31 Andy Bowen W-RTD84 Jack Everhardt, New Orleans, LA

    1893-07-03 Jim Holloway D73 Barney Malone, Johannesburg, South Africa

    1894-08-21 Solomon English D56 John Ball, Baltimore, MD

    1923-01-05 Merci Montes W-KO51 Jimmy Dundee, El Toreo, Mexico City, Mexico
     
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  14. Senya13

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    There are likely more than what I listed, but those are the ones I stumbled upon and cared to add to the list.
     
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    Thanks, another you could add is. 1890-04-10 Abe Cougle Vs James Dohoney fought a 53 round draw

    Focusing on the record progression that puts us at

    1884-04-10 William Sherrif Vs John Welsh 73 round or 5h 6min
    1887-11-16 Jack McAuliffle Vs Jem Carney 74 rounds or about 5h
    1889-01-09 George Mulholland D87 Bill Mahan
    1890-02-27 Danny Needham Vs Patsy Kerrigan 100 rounds or 6h 42m
    1893-04-06 Andy Bowen Vs Jack burke 110 rounds or 7h 20min (also claimed 109 rounds or 7h 16min)