Can Andy Ruiz do a pull up?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by tinman, Jul 2, 2020.



  1. chico g

    chico g What are you staring at Mr Trump?! hahaha! Full Member

    10,351
    11,148
    Oct 18, 2008
    The Blob could probably gobble up 100 snicker bars before he does the pull ups..
     
    Thor Odinson likes this.
  2. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

    27,365
    11,782
    Dec 6, 2008
    He can barely pull up into his driveway. His poor car struggles to haul him up.
     
    madballster and chico g like this.
  3. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    22,762
    323
    Aug 4, 2007
    :qmeparto: At this thread.

    Honestly, I think he could probably do a couple.
     
  4. Thor Odinson

    Thor Odinson “U should have been banned for life”-some fangirl banned Full Member

    1,305
    1,097
    Mar 25, 2020
    He would definitely get an extra rep from all the nougat
     
    chico g likes this.
  5. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me Full Member

    388,178
    70,141
    Nov 30, 2006
    If he doesn't cut down on the queso, he'll be wearing pull-ups by 35.
     
  6. Thor Odinson

    Thor Odinson “U should have been banned for life”-some fangirl banned Full Member

    1,305
    1,097
    Mar 25, 2020
    I saw him in maternity pants once
     
  7. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me Full Member

    388,178
    70,141
    Nov 30, 2006
    Can't wait to see how well Majin Buu - er, I mean, Andy III, can fight.
     
    Sinew, chico g, tinman and 1 other person like this.
  8. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

    7,672
    9,355
    Jun 26, 2019
    Then Andy falls and puts a crack in the foundation of the building.
     
    George Crowcroft and BCS8 like this.
  9. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

    6,844
    4,107
    Dec 16, 2012
    Hold on a minute there Thor, we ned some evidence here.
    What bio-mechanics, & why?
    There are some anatomical traits that make exercises harder or easier, even when all other things are equal.
    Such as shorter forearms help with arm wrestling. That & big bone structure that attached much muscle means that Neanderthals might have been the best arm wrestlers-for their weight divisions.

    But you said it is "all about" bio-mechanics.
    That must be wrong. Because it is clearly *mostly* about what upper body puling strength you have *relative* to your body weight.
    If not, then those that are the best at it would have the best bio-mechanics-regardless of size.
    And we know that none of the heavy, fuhgghetibout very large men, can do nearly as well as the best lighter guys.

    The main reason stocky guys do not do as well is that they way more.
    And even *if* the bigger guys are stronger in absolute terms, it is shown in all weightlifting & powerlifting contests & records, & is a matter of basic physics, that even if the bigger guys have an equivalent body fat &, the smaller guys are stronger relative to their body weight.

    Now can Andy do a pull up? The guy who saw him doing them did not say if he was near the same weight as today. He was 283.7 dressed a bit vs. Joshua the second time.
    I have lifted for years, used to be ~ twice as strong as the average man, now ~ 75% more.
    *Correct* full range of motion from hanging to over the bar are harder than what many do.
    And while they are not the hardest free weight exercise-things like handstand pushups are easier harder-they are not easy, & normally I can do a good twice as many dips as chin ups.

    Now pull ups are harder than chins & most everyone does a few less.
    I know my forearms are put under more stress so tend to fail before the lats & biceps.
    Normally someone with typical neuro-muscular efficiency can do 8 reps at 80% of their one rep max.
    At ~ 220-225 lbs. dressed, I can do up to 8 good pull ups.
    So that would be a single rep for up to 275-280 lbs.

    So now I would likely just miss completing one. Or maybe I could barely execute one.
    At peak strength I could so a few more, maybe 3 & a 1/2, at the same weight, so definitely could.
    That begs the question of whether my upper body strength is similar to Ruiz.
    AND what bio-mechanical advantages or detriments we would have.

    But estimating his body fat % & knowing his weight, I have guesstimated that his lean body mass is what mine was at my peak, & a bit more today. And if he is 6' 2", a couple inches taller than me, that would give him similar muscle mass per inch. If really only 6 he has a bit more muscle per square inch.
    And an analyses of the cross sectional size of a muscle is the single most important determinant of absolute strength.

    Either way, I would say he likely does a single pull up with good form.
    Maybe 2, or certainly more if his range of motion is not complete at top or bottom.
    If we were specifying chin-ups, meaning underhanded-he could likely do several.

    Ruiz is strong, but not hugely powerful.
    And I do not think most know how tough it is to do any good form pull ups with 284-ish lbs.!
    So if I had to bet my life I would guess he could do a pull-up...
    But not training primarily for strength, no indication he is on PEDs, & his very height weight mean it likely would be close!
     
  10. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    22,762
    323
    Aug 4, 2007
    I used to be in the Marine Corp back in the days and in case anyone is interested, the max score you can get in the the physical fitness test for pull ups is 20. Most guys couldn't do that and obviously, we are talking about physically prime males, ages 18-25ish. Most I ever did was 15.

    And yeah, your body structure does play a pretty big factor. Guys with long arms, no matter how strong they were, struggled with it while shorter guys with short arms could do them all day.
     
  11. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    20,650
    24,824
    Jul 4, 2014
    He pulls himself up to the table all right.

    And then up to the bar for a drink.

    So I would say he can do two.
     
  12. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

    27,683
    38,393
    Jan 7, 2014
  13. Thor Odinson

    Thor Odinson “U should have been banned for life”-some fangirl banned Full Member

    1,305
    1,097
    Mar 25, 2020
    Wow yes my pal great post let’s go into it now

    Now this is according to the article I read so I’m not saying it’s gospel but let me elaborate

    it’s nothing to do with height or build or overall muscle strength rather it’s to do with bone structure and where your lattimus Dorsi muscles insert instead

    20 years ago I could do 10 pull ups not easy but after a few weeks training adequately back then I weighed 12 stone = 168 pounds = 76 kg

    I bulked up to 14/15 stone and could only do 5-7

    years went by and I bulked to 16 stone and could only do 5 pull ups

    I was always trying to do 10 like when I first started but couldn’t get there

    now obviously I was stronger but for some reason was doing less pull ups and it was driving me mental

    after a bit of research I found out it was because my body stature had changed and according to this article my lats were now too blocky to do 10 pull ups any more but my bent over rows and seated machine rows were twice my body weight easily

    The article stated it was due to my bio-mechanics and that seemed to make sense

    anyway very impressive numbers you were lifting and I’d love to discuss weight lifting more with you but roger back to the origin of this thread I think Andy ruiz could probably do 3-5 pull-ups

    feel free to dispute what I have said but that’s what I’ve read anyway I think it was in flex magazine
     
    Last edited: Jul 4, 2020
    Camaris likes this.
  14. gerryb

    gerryb Boxing Addict Full Member

    3,596
    2,525
    Mar 24, 2019
    he d beat your ass.
     
  15. madballster

    madballster VIP Member Full Member

    37,210
    6,756
    Jul 21, 2009
    That's pure class by Galento. I read he was asked what he ate the night before fighting Louis. "What do you think I ate? I ate what I eat every night. Two big plates of spaghetti with meatballs and washed them down with a pitcher of ice cold beer." :lol:
     
    KernowWarrior and Brixton Bomber like this.