Can Andy Ruiz do a pull up?

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  1. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Pull ups? I thought sit ups! 37 sit ups and I was out for a week.LOL
     
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  2. gerryb

    gerryb Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Im wary of criticising someone that I would be lucky to get past the 1st round with.
     
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  3. edabomb

    edabomb Active Member Full Member

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    Sit a Big Mac up on that horizontal bar and I reckon he'd do 2 chin ups and make the Big Mac disappear.
     
  4. POTUS

    POTUS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The last time Ruiz successfully able to do a pull up there was another Tyson as champion
     
  5. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes, when we are tested, we are expected to go all the way down. Of course, this might be liberally instituted but for the most part, it's legit pull ups.

    The guys who usually did 20+ pull ups were usually pretty short, short arms and in good shape. Short arms obviously plays a huge factor because it shortens the distance needed to travel to do 1 rep. On the flip side, take a big guy, heavy with long arms. The distance needed to travel to get 1 rep might be double the distance.

    I would say this is akin to marathon running. The best in the world share similar attributes. Most are short, very light and super skinny. You will never see a huge guy that weighs a lot that can compete with them. Physiologically, it is too much of a disadvantage.

    When a short guy with short arms does a pull up with palms facing away and uses a very wide grip, he might literally have to only go down like 12 inches to do a rep. These guys are at a huge physiological advantage.
     
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  6. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don’t know what his routine is like now, but when Sal and my old roommate Sergio Nunez used to work with Andy he would do a routine like this at the end of his day for 10-20 mins.
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  7. Tramell

    Tramell Hypocrites Love to Pray & Be Seen. Mathew 6:5 Full Member

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    In 7th grade Big Willie could out wrestle/power the 8th graders. His whole family was just naturally big boned, pork chops collard greens & hotwater cornbread eatin' type of family.
    Physical fitness test in Jr high school on pushups, situps and pullups based on size & weight.
    Big Willie pullups: 0
     
  8. Tramell

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    We had to go to the back of the gymnasium just in case Big Willie heard any of laughing. Damn how many he can't do, we seen Big Willie fold up kids on the playground and tuck them like chicken wings.
     
  9. Tramell

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    Spent 15 minutes & couldn't find a clean video.

    But I found this topic similar to what I heard of actor Michael Duncan in the Scorpion King with the Rock had to have his scene where he's riding away on his horse cut. Instead they show him turning to his horse and that's it because he couldn't mount it!

    So they gave him like a stepping block -right under the horse with camera zoomed in, so you cant see it in the actual scene. Yet when he used that-he still couldn't mount the horse. Is it just something about certain sized big men, no matter their strength no pullups and no horse mounts?
    LOL!
    Just a vid of someone filming their television- like they knew this would be lost! Around 30 seconds into clip.
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  10. madballster

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    Wow Andy is proving me wrong! I would have bet he'd gas out after 10 reps but man he's good for his huge frame...
     
  11. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot etreuM aL Full Member

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    Maybe 1-2 but probably not
     
  12. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    How many press-ups could he do? Does the michelin gut help him bounce and shorten the distance or would it just make it harder?
     
  13. Deew

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    I hate pull-ups and avoid them. I'm just under 6'3 with a 6'4 wingspan and around 87kg.

    Press-ups, planks and sit-ups all day long no problem, but **** pull-ups.
     
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  14. ButeTheBeast

    ButeTheBeast Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm getting bored of the Ruiz is fat jokes.

    In a proper street fight, he beats up the muscle man AJ any day of the week.

    When you're as naturally talented as Andy, you don't need to try as hard in the gym.
     
  15. Entaowed

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    I appreciate the info, but I have to in some part disagree.
    Often it is thought that longer arms give a leverage advantage in gaining momentum for explosive motions. This may or may not be true, obviously it applies at least for bending less to pick up a dead lift.

    A small point is a no non-dwarf person is going to have 1/2 the length arms, or be hald trhe height, of a tall man. But that is merely an overstatement.

    Also I have been saying that what was pointed out before, insertion point of the muscle, & being wide makes pull ups more difficult, might well apply.


    But my main points is that the largest single factor tends to be that if you are heavier you are pulling up more weight & it is *much* harder.

    Let us say that 2 sets of of hypothetical men.
    As we would do in a scientific experimant, we isolate all variables so the only ones that are different are those we test for-to see what effect these variables have.
    So these men are each identical in every way.
    Except the first pair one guy has arms 50% longer than the other-a huge difference.
    The 2nd pair one man is 150 lbs., the other 225: a lso 50% differential.

    Which pair will have a larger discrepancy between how many pull or chin ups they can do?
    It will easily be the pair divided 50% by weight.

    Another 3way to look at it is consider they are lifting weights, such as back excercises like rows or pull downs.
    Average neuro-muscular efficiency (which is mostly genetic), says that at 75% of your one rep max you can get 10 repetitions.
    Which means if you can max out at 200 lbs., you can do 10 at 150 lbs.
    SO that means all other things being equal, including absolute strength, men of these weights can do 1 & 10 pull-ups, respectively.

    Obviously the difference will be even greater if we do the 50% weight differential I just proposed.
    Whatever other factors we discuss are involved-& there may be a part for muscle insertion, length of arms, & width of back...

    Being heavier by the same degree as any of these things is a far greater factor.