Oliver McCall vs the following prime fighters

Still looks to me like Carnera hit him with the inside of his forearm. Another camera angle would have helped.
What was the consensus at ringside?

 

unfortunately they didn't usually have multiple angles back then

 

Just rewatched the KO part. I can see why it would look like he hit him with his forearm, but Primo probably could KO a guy with just his forearm.

 

I realize that. I only said what I said because it looks like a forearm hit. Which is why I asked for ringside consensus

 

Lewis was tough, but didn't even have a top 50 chin.

 

It's not just what he hit him with, Rob. It's the form of the punch. He is swinging his left arm out and following it with his body. Nothing arrests the motion to give the uppercut snap. He isn't bending into it. He actually swings both arms together like he's a rock star throwing a bucket of water over the front rows. I just don't see how it could have been devastating. It's in link below at about 8.30 (8.30 - best ever line in a Laurel and Hardy film. Blockheads where a ball comes down a flight of stairs and hits a clerk in the face - but I digress).

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I also think Sharkey has form, here. Nothing will convince me that the Dempsey kayo was legitimate. Nothing about how the punch was delivered looked good. Dempsey was walking forward, threw a left that had no push coming through from bended legs, no twist of the hip, no snapping of the shoulder or elbow, just a straight clubbing blow. Sharkey took it on the cheek and threw himself forwards. Preposterous. Apologists say Dempsey was so powerful he could knock you out with a punch that was thrown that poorly. No, he couldn't, otherwise he would have won every fight by early kayo. 9.50 below if anyone is interested.

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The only possible credence I can give either knockout is from what I have seen of Sharkey, and I confess it is not much, he looks absolutely crap.

 

you're right, that knockout does look a little fishy

 

The Atomic Bull vs. a collection of cruisers and oafs.

I pick the Atomic Bull.

 

McCall lost to Orlin Norris who was a CW and he wasn't anything special. Sharkey and Schmeling would school McCall.

It's not that hard to beat McCall, he's very tough and heavy handed but nothing suggest that he was better than just a weaker contender.

 

I can't imagine why he would say, otherwise.

 

McCall, on one of his better days, has a good chance against any of them.

 

lol

 

Numerous boxers through the years have been happy to say otherwise. Jack Johnson told anyone who would listen that his loss to Jess Willard was a fix.

 

It adds no weight to the credence of a claim, one way or t'other.