Sharpest decline you've seen from one fight to the next?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by SquaredCircle, Jul 7, 2020.



  1. SquaredCircle

    SquaredCircle Active Member Full Member

    1,184
    1,708
    Oct 22, 2015
    Has to be within a reasonable timeframe, so fighters retiring and then coming back several years later don't count.
     
    pacas likes this.
  2. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me Full Member

    388,124
    70,082
    Nov 30, 2006
    El Feroz vs. Azucar I & Feroz vs. Azucar II
     
    kirk and northpaw like this.
  3. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    11,057
    3,792
    Aug 2, 2013
    Benn from McClellan to Nardiello
     
    SquaredCircle likes this.
  4. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me Full Member

    388,124
    70,082
    Nov 30, 2006
    (granted the prime-corroding decline began with the beating from Tito and was exacerbated by the one from Golden Boy - except it manifested gradually and didn't fully avalanche into a steep vertical drop until between the meetings with Shane)
     
  5. SquaredCircle

    SquaredCircle Active Member Full Member

    1,184
    1,708
    Oct 22, 2015
    Yeah, Vargas looked like he had rigor mortis in their second fight. His legs were so stiff and he wasn't able to keep his balance after throwing shots.
     
    kirk and IntentionalButt like this.
  6. Stiff Jab

    Stiff Jab Despiser of Super-Middleweights Full Member

    5,011
    7,505
    Jan 7, 2019
    Erik Morales from Pacquiao II to III. I don't agree with the premise that he was entirely washed up in the second fight (the early rounds looked far too much like the first fight for that to be the case) but he was CLEARLY not the same guy in the third fight.
     
    kirk, Badbot, Fat_asian and 2 others like this.
  7. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me Full Member

    388,124
    70,082
    Nov 30, 2006
    Mind you, he was competitive as hell with him just 4½ months earlier.
     
    kirk likes this.
  8. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me Full Member

    388,124
    70,082
    Nov 30, 2006
    Morales is a WEIRD case. He looked shot to **** in Pac III but - turns out he wasn't. Or at least he caught a career second wind and was somehow hanging with ranked guys like twice his size well past his sell-by. :thinking:
     
  9. Tramell

    Tramell Hypocrites Love to Pray & Be Seen. Mathew 6:5 Full Member

    4,474
    3,843
    Sep 21, 2012
    Douglas from Tyson to Holy & currently Ruiz from AJ to AJ
     
  10. SquaredCircle

    SquaredCircle Active Member Full Member

    1,184
    1,708
    Oct 22, 2015
    Morales from Pacquiao II to III is a really good shout, as well. Again, it seems like one of the telltale indicators of a steep decline are shaky legs. I think I recall Steward even mentioning how weak and uncoordinated Morales looked on his feet in the first round or two.

    Hopkins doesn't count post-Kovalev because he took over two years off, but in the opening round against Smith, you could tell he was shot to pieces by looking at the lack of bounce and the rigidity in his movement. You got the feeling with guys at this stage that some hard shots will cause them to crumble.
     
    pacas likes this.
  11. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    15,249
    7,838
    Jun 5, 2010
    Gatti W/Daamgard to his back to back beatdowns and retirement to Baldomir and Al Gomez
     
    Tramell likes this.
  12. SquaredCircle

    SquaredCircle Active Member Full Member

    1,184
    1,708
    Oct 22, 2015
    I wonder if his mini-resurgence (if you could call it that) at 140 was not having to cut so much weight?
     
    IntentionalButt likes this.
  13. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me Full Member

    388,124
    70,082
    Nov 30, 2006
    Almost definitely a factor, yeah. But a big part of the game is mental, and in the Pacquiao rubber match he looked a man who didn't want to fight...or rather, like a monk who didn't even want to slap a fly. And later, fire was back roaring with the fury of a thousand suns. :nusenuse:
     
    SquaredCircle likes this.
  14. SquaredCircle

    SquaredCircle Active Member Full Member

    1,184
    1,708
    Oct 22, 2015
    Don't know if others agree, but I thought I saw a noticeable decline in Kovalev from the Alvarez rematch to Yarde. In IB's RBR, I remember posting early in the fight that Kovalev looked pretty washed-up by his standards.
     
  15. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me Full Member

    388,124
    70,082
    Nov 30, 2006
    Good eye, yeah.
     
    SquaredCircle likes this.