You know Don King was not Byrds manager in 2000. Byrd was under contract by Klitschkos/Universum. . They made him fight Wlad instead. Why did Vitali pass on the rematch?
Holy was a PED abuser KO'd by a 5'10 former middle weight. They both quit in a fight Blade, but in Vitali's case it was a serious injury that required surgery. Funny you use age as an excuse, Holyfield lost to lesser men than Sanders. Toney is an ATG at Middle, not Heavy he was beaten by Sam Peter twice. As for Vitali he is an all time great. He made the hall of fame on his first try and lead his class in votes. Only you and a few haters don't think he belongs. Toney might not make the hall of fame on his first try and Ill bet you he won't lead his class in total votes
King put Byrd, Rhaman, Ruiz, Golota, and company in utterly forgetful title round robin style matches. Show me one legit offer from Byrd to re-match Vitali. Byrd only took the re-match with Wlad because the purse was high and he wasn't in line for another belt. Wlad turned his face into road kill.
What? Byrd Vs Wlad 2000 Byrd vs Wlad rematch 2006 The Vitali rematch would have taken place in 2000. I repaeat , Byrd beat Vitali 2000 , Vitali passed the fight over to Wlad in 2000. King picked up Byrd in 2002. Why did Vitali allow Wlad trigger his rematch clause? Forget about Ruiz and Golota. . Who made Wlad vs Byrd I? Universum did. Quit playing stupid
You can't read. Where was the offer from Byrd to re-match once Vitali recovered from surgery? Show me.
That was up to Vitali . He held the rematch cluase.. Why didn't he use it to get his belt back?? Answer the question
Lot of fighters do not quit with serious injuries, James toney including.Vitali quit and lost, get over it and stop looking for excuses.I said Toney was an ATG and not an ATG heavyweight.You are just reading into it what you want to read or rather what suits your agenda.Same with the Sanders argument.well prime Holyfield never lost to somebody like him.And Holyfield has better wins than Sanders so your point is mute anyway. But again you are just turning logic on its head.Either that or you are just ignoring arguments that do not suit your agenda.You are some weird poster I gotta say.As you can’t find notable wins on Vitali’s record you are trying to turn losses into wins, very weird indeed.
Vitali was recovering form injury Wlad subbed in beat the **** out of Byrd. 120-106, 119-107 & 118-108, with two knockdowns. Wlad took the WBO belt. My question to you is where did Byrd offer anything? Come one Dino, the broken clock has a better record that you do. I'll give you one...maybe. Show me this re-match clause.
Thats all you needed to say - "Wlad subbed in". . Vitali chose Hoffman instead that year so it didn't take him long to recover from that shoulder pain. . He avoided the rematch and you have no choice but to try weasel your way around it
That's fine, but the injury is the only reason for the loss. Until then Holyfield was KO'd by a former 5'10" middle weight and quit in a fight with no serious injuries. Facts, can you deal with them? If there was a re-match Vitali beats Byrd, and he'd whip Toney even worse. Enough on Toney, like Holyfield he was on ROIDS and was beaten by Sam Peter...TWICE. We already went over the facts that Vitali beat the common opponents such as Donald and Bean by a much more significant margins. I think you were on excuse #5 by by that time. Prime Holyfield was badly whipped by Bowe, and lost to Moorer who's comparable to Sanders. Yeah I suppose if you are 1-4 vs Lewis and Bowe on fair score cards ( You could argue Bowe earned a draw in the 2nd fight ), you had plenty of chances to get that one great win. As we know Lewis did not offer Vitali the re-match. Vitali was set to fight a post prison Tyson too, but Danny Williams ruined those plans.
DUH that fight happened after Wlad vs Byrd. He wasn't ready. Show me the re-match clause? 2nd time asking for it. We already know Byrd never made a re-match challenge backed by money to re-match Vitali.
Here , straight from the horses mouth. . Take another loss. Its all you do on here This content is protected
I was referring to the 2003 Toney and not the one against Peter.But again you just pick what suits your agenda. Holyfield did not quit against Toney, his corner threw in the towel. Again Holyfield fought Donald when he was way past his best.But you just keep ignoring what does not suit your agenda.How relevant is the Bean fight?who cares which win was more dominant? The both beat him convincingly.You are just desperate looking for things like that. Now you start ignoring Tyson again as one of Evander’s top wins.You clearly have an agenda. The Lewis rematch did not come off and the loss remains.How relevant is it whose fault it is.And then you go on about some strange hypothetical between a completely shot Tyson and Vitali.Totaly irrelevant once again.You seem confused by now LOL
The 1-4 in big fights argument is total BS and factually incorrect once again.Why can’t you get your facts right.We all know you have an agenda but that should at least be managable.Evander had other great wins.Vitali never even fought against the likes of Prime Lewis and prime Bowe.He lost to lesser opponents.You are not able to come up with impressive wins in Vitali’s record so you try to deflect by trying to pick holes in Holy’s record.You are some strange poster I gotta say
