Prime Holmes vs Prime Tyson

We talking Fury or Mike?

Holmes is favorite against Iron Mike.

 

Real tough call. Holmes was hard to keep down underrated chin to a degree. With his team of Rooney at the helm I'd go Tyson. Without Rooney, I'd lead toward Holmes.

It would be an ebb n flow show.

 

In my opinion the jab is too much for Tyson douglas vs Tyson all over again

 

A younger Holmes would do a bit better than he did in 88 but Tyson by KO again. Mike Spinks would accord.

 

Holmes was great. Think people underestimate tyson in his prime nowadays tho. People need to understand none of these heavyweights we,re trained in the way tyson was. Basically trained up from 14 with one goal in mind by an obsessive old man that also had one goal in mind. An obsessive old man that knew what he was doing.

Tyson blew it in the end....but in his short prime i reckon hes beating all of them, holyfield, lewis and holmes. Good fights tho. There was a reason he was more hyped than all of them.

 

LMAO!

Only on the general forum, I swear...

 

Mike Tyson never beat any killers in his prime, Larry Holmes did.

and Holmes knew how to slow down midgets on crack like mike early fight

Why you're so arrogantly confident Mike beats him let me know

 

Repeat of the actual fight, the result gets delayed to round 6-⅞

 

No more dream matches in this forum please. I saw you posted them everywhere boy....

 

I rate both fighters, and it's a tough call for me. An old larry did pretty well and I just recently rewatched tyson tillis and didn't remember tillis having as much success as he did. With those 2 considerations I'd pick Larry by UD, possibly late KO. Man Tyson's prime was short!

 

Was it really though?
Tyson did not live up to his potential after his focus and team dissolved, including due to the exploitation of King, Givens etc...But he was not psychologically strong enough to deal as effectively with diversity and adapt, as someone like Ali did..,

However, how long do you think the average, or even the longest especially HW peaks last?
Chart it yourself-it is hard to find guys who were truly peak for 5 full years, and that was the max.
3 years is common too, that is the least you can credit Tyson with.
Actually it is more likely you can define that as "prime", not peak, but the actual definitions with individual fighters are debatable,
Tyson was peak at least 3 years, and if you count how many fights he had that were peak.
If you count up the number of fights-arguably a better measure of peak, but at least important-Tyson was certainly at least average.

If you are gonna disqualify a fight from peak based upon an unusual fight like Tillis where he clearly won & only the other guy was dropped because he did not dominate throughout...
You would have to shorten most all other guy's peaks also.

And look at how good his competition was. Bear in mind that especially at HW, claims are always made that everyone was a bum...
But from the start through his peak-then examine the records of those he fought for years afterwards-the quality & records of those Tyson fought was greater than usual. [url]https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/474[/url]

He turned pro in March of 1985 & for the rest of the year had 15 fights!
Then in 1986 he stepped up the competition & had 13 bouts, still really busy.
Those he fought through his prime were increasingly good.
If you are skeptical, check box rec & compare his competition & their records to *other* fighters you are impressed with.
Nobody always dominated, even a man who never lost & had 43 KOs out of 49...
But few were as dominant for as many HW fights in a few years as Tyson.
Count them up yourself compared to others, such as say Ali, & how many years he was at his best, not dropped by modern day LHW size guys...

 

Didn't you see that I said I rate BOTH fighters? Your post makes it seem like I'm a Tyson hatter which I am not. I actually feel he is underrated quite often. It seems like your saying that Tyson's prime was as long as any other reigning heavyweight champ and I disagree. Tillis had a lot of success in that fight that the commentators either ignored or just missed cuz they were focused on Tyson. I think Holmes is a far better fighter than Tillis and that's why I think he would win against Tyson. I feel like your reading a lot of hate into my post that comes from other posters, not me. You should start a new thread with a poll regarding Tysons lengthy prime and see how many agree with your take.