This sums things up to the point of perfection. Calzaghe himself knows why the fight with Jones didn't happen until a month shy of 2009, and it wasn't to protect Roy Jones. The fight would have been hard to watch, an absolute hammering.
You have to take into account many factors. Let's look at your Tarver example. IMHO, if Joe had fought Tarver at his full capabilities, then he would have beaten him. But that does not automatically mean that he'd have had the same success against Roy, that Tarver had. Roy was almost 35 when he'd fought Tarver, and he'd dropped back from HW. After 9 rounds, Roy's gas tank was empty. In an old 15 round fight, Roy may not have made it to the final bell. He was completely exhausted. Not only that, Tarver was unbelievably motivated, and he relentlessly attacked Roy, especially when Roy was on the ropes. But how do we know that Joe would have shown the same aggression as Tarver, against an earlier version of Roy? Look at his comments that I listed, and look at his actions. There is no evidence that Joe would have pressured Roy in the same manner as Tarver, using his insane volume and work rate that he used against other fighters. I think IF Joe had've fought Roy, we wouldn't have seen him throwing hundreds of shots. I truly believe that we'd have seen an ultra cautious, low output version of Joe being very cagey. I don't believe for a second that he'd have had Tarver's mindset. Joe would have been facing a guy who was faster, more powerful, more accurate, who had more shots in his ars*nal, and who he'd have had an enormous amount of respect for.
Still hurts then Loudon? Seeing one's hero being clowned in such a way, can sometimes affect people badly. You will eventually get over it. Just think of all the Pacturds who had to suffer that brutal KO loss by Marquez. It shouldn't be too hard seeing as the Jones KO's by Johnson and Lebedev are quite similar. Perhaps looking at the Tarver and Danny Green stoppages might ease the pain as they were less brutal. Lol.
shotshyte roys been destroyed multiple times by plenty of fighters. just for reference does loudon need to get over the other beatings that the shot2shyte 40something roy took too? just for reference, was that harder than for the Marquez fans seeing Marquez being sent packing in the other three fights with Pac?
Ha! How's it going mate, it's been a while. No, it doesn't hurt. If he'd have beaten a 20's-30's version of Roy, I literally would have lost sleep. Ha! But Glen beat what was left out of Roy four years before Joe did. The only reason I've commented here, is because there's guys that think that their 2008 fight signifies something in Joe's favour, which I can't agree with at all. Would anyone seriously have picked Glen Johnson or Danny Green etc, to have beaten Roy at his peak? I don't think so. Their fights against Roy, just like Joe's, tell us absolutely nothing. Why? Because a 25 year old Roy Jones was on another planet to the near 40 year old version who Joe fought. So you're looking at two completely different fighters. A 95/96 version of Roy, would have held many advantages over ANY version of Sir Joseph.
I regret that I never enjoyed either guy at the time of their pinnacles due to going through my elitist classic boxer phase. In hindsight I have come to appreciate both of their careers and accomplishments. RJJ is likely the best SMW I have witnessed and Calzaghe the greatest (RJJ did not fight at 168 long enough)...although in my heart (go ahead and laugh) I would pick Eubank over both of them (but I admit to bias). This likely would not be a blowout or one sided destruction...but if it were I imagine it would be RJJ doing the destroying. I don't think a stoppage is the most likely outcome, but once again if so I would envision Jr. stopping Joe. I could envision Roy's speed and power dropping Calzaghe early and stopping Joe in the early to mid rounds. But not the most likely scenario for me but certainly a very possible outcome. I could envision a widely one sided fight where RJJ uses his superior speed and reflexes fighting a cautious fight minimizing risks and taking a large decision. I could see it reflecting RJJ-Hopkins I where both fighters are very respectful of the other and seldom mixing it up, with either guy taking a close decision (again most likely Jr.)..I don't see Joe fighting this way so again I find this unlikely. I don't see anyway Joe stops Jr. Nor any way he can take a one sided decision. My most likely scenario is Joe dictating a fast pace with a high work rate as was his norm. With Jones using his reflexes to make most miss, and causing Joe to tire in the later rounds (even though I think he had high level stamina). Joes workrate also opens him up to Jones counters, and flurries. Most likely scenario 116/117-112/111 type decision for Jones. Outside shot of a Jones stoppage. Upset chance for Joe to outwork Jones for a narrow decision. Joe should clearly be the underdog...but a very live dog IMHO. I wouldn't bet a dime on this outcome but I wouldn't sit staring at the TV in a surprised stupor either.
Foxy. LOL. I almost forgot how contemptuous of Americans he was. LOL. Anyway, Roy would win a UD. Too fast of hand and foot.
Great fight, Roy's power advantage wins this for him. His power is shocking combined with his speed and could be enough to get a couple knockdowns. Joe would win a few rounds and people would say how well this European Champion did vs Roy Jones. Would probably be close-ish. I'd say 117-110 or 116-111 Roy Jones (9-3 or 8-4 in rounds + 1 KD).
I'd take Jones by decision. Calzaghe was outstanding but he didn't have the tools to beat Jones. I think every round would be about the same with Jones' speed making a difference.
As a Roy Jones fan I will state that Calzaghe, has a good chance against Jones and Calzaghe is easily the most underrated boxer on this very forum. He's P4P better than allot of the guys you have Top 20 P4P like Greb, Armstrong, Pep, Saddler, Monzon I'd give Jones the edge in speed, skill and power but it could be Calzaghe's stamina and workrate win out.
