Name fighters with great skills who failed at the top level

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  1. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And why they underachieved?
     
  2. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Jimmy Slatterey.

    Reason, drunkenness among others!
     
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  3. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mark Breland for one. Coming out the Olympics fans were saying next R Robinson. It didn't go well.
    Clint Jackson a great amateur, was thought to have a bright future in the pro's. It didn't happen. Now still serving a life sentence in prison for a kidnapping scheme.
    Tony Ayala and Ike Ibeabuchi. Couldn't control their demons . Both in prison.
    Tyrell Biggs. Terrific amateur. Just didn't have the dedication for the pro level.
    Henry Tillman see Biggs comment.
    The Gray Brothers local guys. Very talented, especially Joe, Clifford and Bernard ( There was about 10 of them) but just couldn't get the right mangegment behind them .
    Anthony Hembrick, I don't think he was dedicated enough, and Karma literally grabbed him by the throat, after dancing around the boxing ring like a fool, only to be K'oed in the 1st rd by a 3rd rater. But honestly their are probably thousands of fighters that didn't make it, some very talented, but couldn't catch the lucky break and eventually just faded away after becoming a stepping stone, for the new guy coming up .
     
  4. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Great call out on Jackson. I expected big things from him. I believe he stayed in the amateurs too long. Burnt himself out. The Fletcher fight was fantastic
     
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  5. AwardedSteak863

    AwardedSteak863 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Oba Carr was a hell of a good fighter that just couldn't make at the top level. He had a hell of a skillset but just couldn't win a belt.

    Another guy that comes to mind is a local fighter named DeAndre Latimore. He had a huge buzz in St Louis when he was coming up and was just destroying guys in the gym. He was a can't miss guy that ended fading away after a couple of losses. My old coach Kenny Loehr told me he was as talented as anyone he ever trained.
     
  6. sweetsci

    sweetsci Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Greg Page just seemed to be so smooth and fast when he was coming up. Time would prove he had a solid chin. He just didn't have the drive to push himself to the very top.

    Donald Curry looked so good through the McCrory fight. Then he just lost that something-special edge (cocaine? stayed at welter too long?)

    Hector Camacho looked fantastic in his first TV bouts. But something seemed a little off in his first defense, on HBO, against Rafael Solis. Three years later Edwin Rosario put a fear into him that kept him at an "above average" level, rather than "great."
     
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  7. JC40

    JC40 Boxing fan since 1972 banned Full Member

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    Howard Davis jr.
     
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  8. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I love Mark Breland, and he was a very good pro who was a champion. But I honestly believe he was a wee bit brittle to be an elite. Doesnt make him a bad fighter, though.
     
  9. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Doesnt make him a bad fella though.
     
  10. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    I felt Dale Brown had superb skills but always lost the important fights
     
  11. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Joan Guzman.

    A seemingly uncontrollable case of crash weight-gain.
     
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  12. WhataRock

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    He was really my "one to watch" guy coming up.

    He did alright considering but still disappointing he couldn't watch his weight and do even better.
     
  13. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So did I, but something was missing. Though he did win a championship, he never came close to what was thought he'd become as a pro. Breland also is one of the better trainers in the game today. Though he could help that idiot Wilder I hope he stays away from him. Especially after the way he was disrespected after the 2nd Fury fight. Breland has to much class for the foolishness from Wilder.
     
  14. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes it was a great fight. And I agree I also believe he stayed in the amateurs too long.
     
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  15. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I agree. Carr was a very good fighter who had some success. But I expected more out of him.