Hopkins was a tall MW, would never say massive. His frame is more slim than massive. He didn't have broad shoulders at MW. He just took care of himself between fights.
I have heard it all. If he was so massive, then how come he was THE champ til he was 40? If he was so massive, then how come he wasn´t compromising himself? And by that logic, everyone else at middleweight was just lazy.
Bruh, his shoulders were 3 times the size of DLH and Tito. Very rarely did he not have as broad of shoulders as his opposition at 160.
I paid quite a bit attention to him when he made his comeback and eventually reclaimed the IBF belt. I also took a deeper look into mental health and concussions. **** is scary. Completely well behaved people, absolute sweethearts have become extremely violent after just a single brain related accident.
Again, that's just frame. Oscar and Tito are hardly the points of reference to go with in terms of MW frames/sizes. Since you just said Hop's shoulders were about as broad as other MW's, that works for me.
I haven't watched it since it happened when I was a teenager. But I remember having a few friends over and a lot of us scored it for taylor by a very slight margin. I remember not feeling right about that one. Hopkins made it very close and looked dominant in the later rounds.
Don't have much interest in rewatching this series, but I had the first 115-113 Hopkins and the second 115-113 Taylor.
Lol at the term "Frame Bully" that's right up there with the "Floored" thread. Time to scrap weight classes and install "Frame" classes then we'll end horrible mismatches like when Michael Spinks Frame bullied Mike Tyson for 91 seconds, lmao. Lets move Canelo who is only 5'8" down to fight Loma who's 5'7" because clearly poor Canelo has been frame bullied his entire career, rofl. Hopkins had a 28 inch waist, walked around in 2015 at 174lbs when he didn't have a fight scheduled but he's apparently this massive frame bully. That's why he had so much success at middleweight, the fact he moved up fought heavier men and better men and still beat many of them is beside the point.
Great win for Taylor. I thought the right guy deserved to win. Hopkins was too inactive for the first 8 rounds. Strangely enough that fight was also the beginning of the end for Taylor who really went downhill afterwards.
Hopkins wasn't so much a weight or 'frame' bully, as he was a mediocre middleweight whose career was carried on the strength if his beating welters like Oscar and Tito.
