Would you rather...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by blackfella96, Jul 29, 2020.


Would you rather?

  1. 9 Weight classes with 4 World Titles

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  2. Keep all divisions with only 1 World Title

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  1. blackfella96

    blackfella96 Active Member Full Member

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    9 Divisions
    - Heavyweight
    - Cruiserweight
    - Light Heavyweight
    - Middleweight
    - Welterweight
    - Lightweight
    - Featherweight
    - Bantamweight
    - Flyweight

    And keep the 4 World Title Belts?
    With absolving the light/super divisions, I think it'd only be fair to implement same day weigh ins in this scenario.

    Or

    Keep all divisions, but limit to 1 World title.
    With eliminating the the organisations and having 1 champion, that should always result in the best fighting the best at a decent rate.

    Seeing if this would be a possible solution to boxing's problem of fighters avoiding each other, or taking too long to come to an agreement. Both with never happen, but worth a discussion.

    Personally I'd go with 9 Weight classes, I'd feel that it would produce many great fights even with the 4 belts, and with a bigger fighter pool, the 4 belts would some way balance it out. Plus a multi-divisional champion under these rules would be harder, making it more impressive to be one (still a great achievement now).
     
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  2. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    All divisions is safer with the day-before weigh-in. You could get guys 30-40lbs apart in the ring otherwise!
     
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  3. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Your way produces 36 "world"champs, the other way only produces 17. To say your a champ means something when there are only 16 other champs and you're the only one in your division.
     
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  4. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Jeez, if we could get it down to 1 title, I would add a weight division. 190 would be classic cruiser, and the current would be bumped up to 205 as Junior Heavyweight.

    It is the 1 world= 4 world champions formula that is killing boxing.
     
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  5. Badbot

    Badbot I Am An Actual Pro. Full Member

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    You could have a division every 5lbs and someone would still complain or cheat.
    Roman Gonzales was completely fine at 112. Suddenly he is small at 115.
    Pascal was a big dude at 168, but the guys at 175 made him look small. And the dude is a damn tank.

    :lol: Hell, some dude told me that Hopkins was a frame bully when I brought up the fact that he basically never weighed more than his opponents at 160lbs. He was rarely even close to or at 170lbs. But nope, a frame bully he was :lol:
     
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  6. blackfella96

    blackfella96 Active Member Full Member

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    Keeping the 4 titles though is to counter the huge influx of fighters. From a quick calculation on boxrec, thats over 4000 fighters in the one division for a combined middleweight (unless SMW absolved into LHW which makes more sense).
    1 champion is obviously better, but I feel that some classes won't get the same respect. For example, no one even cares that Bud Crawford became undisputed in Light Welterweight because of who he beat to get it, and he won't get his dues unless he dominates a whole different division despite being a 2-division champ imo.
     
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  7. blackfella96

    blackfella96 Active Member Full Member

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    If only, I hate 4 titles. Why not just add a super heavyweight division on top of it instead? 225+ possibly
     
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  8. blackfella96

    blackfella96 Active Member Full Member

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    Thats my only thing about it. The weight differential could be insane, it shouldn't be that bad if you spread the weights differently ie. Super Middleweight absolved into LHW instead of Middleweight
     
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  9. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Classic 190 gives LHW somewhere easy to go, while bumping the current cruiser to 205 makes it even easier when they want to move up to heavy. It just seems that the 25 pound jump from 175 to 200 is too great. That is adding one fifth of their body-weight again.

    And hell, if you are getting rid of 3/4 of your champions by spilling the alphabet soup, then why not?
     
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  10. blackfella96

    blackfella96 Active Member Full Member

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    Good point. I thought it was wide also.
    Does make sense that way, But I think Super Heavy would translate easier into the current age
     
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  11. Bujia

    Bujia Well-Known Member Full Member

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    One champ per division, no doubt.
     
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  12. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think there needs to be one world title per division more than anything else.

    The best also need to fight the best, which is currently not the case in boxing.

    If there was only one world title, then the best would be far more likely to be fighting the best.
     
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  13. Two Tonne Tony

    Two Tonne Tony New Member Full Member

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    I would prefer to keep all divisions with only one world title. That way the guy who wins the championship in their division would be truly the top dog.
     
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  14. KernowWarrior

    KernowWarrior Bob Fitzsimmons much bigger brother. Full Member

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    One World Champion per weight division for sure, however regular defence of the title a must, cannot or will not defend at set times then lose the title.

    We do not want for example how Dempsey only defended title 6 times in a 7 year reign.
     
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  15. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Valid points. Having the multi-champ model, you get too much bs. Guys getting stripped. Guys getting ducked because they don't have a belt. Ducking rematches because the winner wants all the belts and is fighting another belt holder before a rematch. 1 champ stream lines everything.
     
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